For harden criminals that have no chance of parole, should they be sent over seas to fight wars?
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Another great question....The prison idustry is business and thier is money to be made. The idea that you proposed is a good one and they should send them overseas to fight but they are too money hungry to have that eveer happen. You probly already know this but the government doesnt care about college students, fathers, and other productive citizens thier objective is more money, control, and finding another towers to knock down.
what would they be fighting for? What would motivate them to fight? rather than join the opposition?
Unfortunately, they couldn't be trusted to remain where they were stationed, or to obey orders.
no, then they have freedom.
So you want to arm criminals with Military grade weapons?
And how are their superiors going to keep them under control?
Also the current military is ALL VOLUNTEER. No one outside of the certifiably loony thinks that a draft is coming.
i have heard others say this before and i kind of agree however, i think that they would betray their country, and somehow we all would be the ones to pay for that
Well, personally, I lik the idea of sending them to fight as well. But I think we differ on our reasons why. I just like to see these guys getting out to breath soem fresh air once and a while. My own father went to prison and I know others who have gone as well, and many of them are not bad people, but rather they either made a mistake or sometimes their charges are trumped up to make the judge and the district attorney look better for elections, and hell, sometimes they're wrongly convicted. I think they deserve the chance to earn their freedom by fighting for their country at least.
its a good idea, but trained military men have
pretty decent discipline skills. I would imagine
it would be very challenging to get harden criminals
to do something like that. Physically they can
but mentally it might not turn out too well
I see flaws in your theory...I don't think that I would want hardened criminals sent as MY army. They are fighting for our country...but they're criminals? Where would their loyalties lie? Do you really think they would be loyal to us? They would probably end up switching sides or betraying us somehow. I would totally not trust them.
Besides, I think the military would resent it, too. The people in the military are there because they WANT to be. They wouldn't like it if criminals were sent to do their job instead.
No way. Think about what you are saying. Are American troops a bunch of criminals? Should they be?
Ok, so you don't know much about WW2 history. For that I will forgive you. Saying this, it was tried during WW2 and did not prove to be a very good idea. They attacked their own troops and tried to kill off anyone who gave them orders. The idea was dropped after a very short time. And why is it that you think college students should be allowed to sit on their fat a**s and have parties while the people who keep this countyr going, be drafted?? I say if there is a draft, NO COLLEGE DEFERMENTS AT ALL. Send them spoiled brats first. AND, why are college student any more productive than construction workers, maint men, highway workers etc etc. You must be a nut to think that you, as a college student are productive, All you do is go to class's and play football. Balogna. What an insult to the millions of average Joe's who go to work everyday to keep your country going.
I think it would not work they might not obey commands, they might even use the weapons to turn against us. Many soldiers have mercy but hardened criminals may kill someone unneccesarily and torture people.
Would you put automatic weapons in the hands of hardened criminals who have no hope of freedom?
I'll pass. Sure, they serve no good to us in prison, but there's no good reason we should let them out of jail and have weapons. Even if we drop them in and have no contact with our own guys, they could wind up slaughtering civillians wantonly, which would just get everyone pissed at our volunteer soldiers.
Now, you want to suggest that we offer early release for nonviolent criminals who'd rather spend 12 months in Iraq than 6 months for stealing a few hundred bucks, then I'm listening. Serve your country, get paid for it, and the jail sentence is taken away? Of course, there's a few ethical issues there, but it sure sounds good.
Murderers though? No way.
i think everyine has their own rights whether to go or not, but unlike the soldiers, the have the duty to protect and serve the country. they have taken an oath to that. but for the criminals, what are they fighting for? there is no reason for them to fight. what would they gain for it? it's not that they get any pardon or parole. so, i think its not such a good i dea. anyway, they cant be trusted. they can double crossed you if they see an opportunity knocks.
I think a lot of people think this. I have the mindset to understand criminals and college students the same. Since I am a hardened student crimnal I think I have something to share. I have had an extremely had time finding employment because of felonies on my record. Now I am half way through a college degree. Will I be able to obtain a job when I graduate? I wonder every day. I was thinking yesterday that I wouldn't mind going to Iraq and killing as much Arabs as possible. Live or die its all good. I think the problem is that there are a lot of criminals that would turn on their staff sargents and fellow soldiers alike. Give me a machine gun and some meth and I am going to shoot everyont good or bad.
I kind of agree with you because it used to be done. However if they don't have a chance for parole where is the incentive to fight. If they don't have the incentive they aren't going to fight for their country. Its just that simple. Good idea, good questions but not thought out very well.
Well this is not a new idea. Remember that the Romans used slaves to fight in battle. However, there are laws that would prevent such acts in this nation, not the least of which is the the Eighth Amendment to the United States Constitution, which forbids cruel and unusual punnishment.
But if you wanted to explore your theory a litte more, the problems of the past also come into view. First and foremost, how are you going to govern a mass horde of inmate mercenaries with firearms in battle? Isnt it just as likely that they will nto fight and instead kill their commanders and return home locked and loaded?
The United States imprisons 2.1 million people; I'm not a hundred percent sure who we're fighting but I'm sure we're not winning. Ten years ago we spent $5 billion fighting drugs and we did such a good job that last year we spent $16 billion. Sixty percent of Federal prisoners are in jail on drug charges, as opposed to two and a half percent in jail for violent crime.
We imprison a higher percentage of our citizens than Russia did under Communism and South Africa under Apartheid. Somewhere between fifty and eighty-five percent of our prison population has a drug or alcohol abuse problem. We've tried "just say no," I don't think it's going to work.
This war's at home. Its casualties are in our prisons and not our hospitals. The amount of money the American Government is spending in Colombia is the same amount that American consumers are spending buying drugs from Colombia. We're funding both sides of this war and we'll never win it that way.
Cheers!
No. Do you really want to arm and train hardened criminals?
If those college student, father and other productive citizens sign up for ACTIVE duty what do you think they are signing up for. And no criminals with no chance a parole should stay in jail.
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