Are illegal immigrants really a "drain" on the US's economy (hospitals, schools, jobs, etc)?
A record patient survey indicated that 70% of the women who gave birth at Parkland in the first three months of 2006 were illegal immigrants! Crikey, that is 11,200 anchor babies born every year just in Dallas. According to the article, the hospital spent $70.7 million dollars delivering 15,938 babies in 2004 but managed to end up with almost 8 million dollars in surplus funding. Medicaid kicked in $345 million, Dallas County taxpayers kicked in $31.3 million and the feds tossed in another $9.5 millon.
The average patient in Parkland's maternity wards is 25 years old, married and giving birth to her second child. She is also an illegal alien. By law, pregnant women cannot be denied medical care based on their immigration status or ability to pay. Ok. fine. That doesn't mean they should receive better care than everyday, middle class American citizens. But at Parkland Hospital they do.
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Yes, they are a drain and they are lawbreakers who deserve nothing but our disdain and disrespect. Medicaid kicked in $345 million -- who do you think paid for the Medicaid? Who paid for the federal $9.5 million? Certainly not the illegals. Maybe we should just shut down the hospitals to anyone who can't provide proof of legal entry. Or, if they can't provide proof, maybe the babies should be confiscated by CPS or DCFS. That would be fair -- much more fair than costing law-abiding citizens and letting these lawbreakers run free and have their anchor babies. Take their kids -- they are lawbreakers and they are contributing to the delinquency of minors, endangering their children's welfare by being in the country illegally and subject to deportation and they are criminals. That's what happens and should happen to criminals. Take away their incentives and opportunities. No matter how you look at it we pay, but maybe if we took their kids and deported their parents, they'd realize they aren't going to get away with breaking the laws and stay out. Repeal the automatic citizenship law for babies and make them citizens only if their parents are legal.
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so.what's the question? you seem to have answered yourself.
If she cannot afford a $100.00 to delivery a freaking, kid, how in the he!! can she even afford to raise one.
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one of many injustices in america. Im single but I have to pay an extra 1500 dollars a year in income tax just because I'm not married. Marriage penalty my as s
Um how about all the murders we sentence to life and then pay for them to live 35 years in prison..
CAPITAL PUNISHMENT!!!
Let's see, if we suddenly made them all legal, would they then be a drain on the economy? In either case, the costs would be the same and their contribution to the economy would be the same.
The only difference would be that their employers would now have to make payroll tax payments on their behalf to the federal government, which would force them to raise prices, which might force others to raise prices, which might lead to widespread inflation - uh, that might be a drain on everyone's pocketbooks. Having them all kicked out and replaced by legal workers at much higher wages would make the inflationary spiral happen that much more quickly - our politicians in Washington know this and aren't in any hurry to resolve the 'illegal' immigrant 'problem'.
Not to mention that 77 hospitals in border states have closed their doors because illegals used their services and didn't pay. It's a crock of crap.
its not that they cant afford to pay for these things, they prefer not to pay. Most of them just take advantage of a great service meant for people that REALLY cant afford to pay for these kinds of things. .
I hear your pain, Imagine health costs if these freebies were not given out and that money was cycled back into the system! Millions of dollars in reduced health? heck yeah! infact if the free care was not given out there would be so much extra money that health costs would become nearly free for citizens. I understand that you have to be humane and not turn away people who need urgent care but when im back burnered in a line somewhere trying to get better and im held up becuase someone who isnt supposed to be here is getting their thousands of dollars in free care I kinda get mad.
all though they may be harder workers strictly from a financial point they do drain the economy. I say this on a strictly financial basis. Not only do they work cheaper doing jobs others wont, which means that there are some other legals who wont get jobs, but the money do recieve is sent back to their country of origin. Also as they do work in this country when they do get sick the public has to support their health care.
Without a doubt
Their care is not "Free" and most of poor America's care is the Emergency Room!
It is the Republican Rich generally, who use them as slave labor, and then pawn them off on us to make up the difference. They employ them contrary to the law. They should be arrested and jailed like anyone else.
Like it or not, America depends on the labor of illegals to pick almost all of their fruit so they can buy it cheap at a supermarket!
The Emergency room is not "better care" when some die in the waiting room waiting to be seen!
Illegals are not eligible for any federal programs, like Medicaid, that I know of. You have to be a US citizen and you have to provide an ORIGINAL birth certificate or other legal documentation!
And what do those people do in Texas. Many work for corporations that receive multi-million dollar contracts to produce items for the military. Like the top MRE maker in the US was busted by the FBI. Almost all of their employees were illegals where the company forged their papers and paid them very little. They sure weren't employing Americans!
The door swings both ways, and when are you going to realize it isn't the illegals that are taking advantage of you. It is their employers!
Better service Terry? What do you mean? They don't have to 1st class rooms, do they?
Do elaborate.
Spa treatments?
The hospital says that they cannot turn anybody away, right? So then if a LEGAL wanted FREE service they could also get it right? How is that better especially since we do not know if this woman contributes to taxes through her paycheck or her husbands?
May I remind you that there are PLENTY of LEGAL citizens abusing the welfare system...some do not work and have many kids to get more money, and do not contribute either.
who do theypass the bill on to? the rest of the folks that use the hospital. you doc bills are on the rise.
they need to stop having so many kids
if they cant afford the medical bill how can they afford raising a kid
Like it or not, illegal aliens /are/ participating in the US economy, they may be doing a lot of it in the grey and black markets, but, like everyone else, they mostly do /something/.
The question isn't whether they're part of the economy. Everyone is: drug dealers, prostitutes, scam artists, big business, small business, common citizens - if you earn or spend money at any point in a given year, you're part of the economy. The point is simply that they're hear illegally, and they shouldn't be. They should either be in thier respective countrys of origin, participating in thier economies, or they should be here legally, participating in the open, legal economy, where there contribution could be measured and apreciated.
You have way too much time on your hands!
They are very much a drain on our society and should be sent back to their own country...
Don't be in a hurry to condemn because he doesn't do what you do or think as you think or as fast. There was a time when you didn't know what you know today.
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http://www.heritage.org/research/welfare...
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Unlawful Entry is a CRIME. Zero tolerance for immigration-law violators! No amnesty, no "stealth-amnesty." No "change of status," marriage fraud, "exceptional leave to remain," no "Temporary Protected Status." If you break the law, depart or be deported. Illegal aliens kill more US citizens each year than the war in Iraq has killed in four years. Apologists for illegal immigration like to paint it as a victimless crime. But in fact, illegal immigration causes substantial harm to American citizens and legal immigrants, particularly those in the most vulnerable sectors of our population--the poor, minorities, and children. Additionally, job competition by waves of illegal immigrants willing to work at substandard wages and working conditions depresses the wages of American workers, hitting hardest at minority workers and those without high school degrees. Illegal immigration also contributes to the dramatic population growth overwhelming communities across America--crowding school classrooms, consuming already limited affordable housing, and straining precious natural resources like water, energy, and forestland. Taxpayers are being forced to pay for the free health care, education, and other welfare programs being given to illegal aliens; Those tax dollars could be given back to U.S. taxpayers or used to keep our borders secure; They may be here illegally, but they sure know how to "work the system" to collect "free" medical care, "free" education, "free" food, Section 8 housing vouchers and other housing assistance, and hundreds of other social services. It costs citizens additional hundreds of billions of tax dollars at every level: local, state, and federal. It gobbles up billions of our charitable contributions. And much of that money ends up siphoned out of our economy and into offshore accounts. Illegal aliens, over half of whom work "under the table" with neither job nor income reported (nor taxed), are not counted as employed or unemployed. But some of those day-labor and off-the-books "job-lets" would be "real" jobs - available to American citizen job-seekers - if employment regulations were enforced. Illegal aliens can get away with tax evasion, et al., which citizens cannot. In short, we have too many workforce entrants and too few jobs created. The ratio works out to roughly 7-10 workforce entrants per job created. If all illegal aliens depart or are deported, all legal immigration halted, and all temporary employment visas abolished, we still have a problem with more US-born workforce entrants than new jobs created. Illegal immigration damages our country and our citizens every day at every level. And not even the attacks of 2/26 and 9/11 have awakened many Americans to the vast dangers illegal immigration poses to our selves, our families, our communities, our society, our values, our principles, our civilization. Zero Tolerance for Immigration-Law Violators! We must remember the lessons of 2/26, 9/11, and the costs we bear every single day. God Bless the U S A !
what about America's poor who have no jobs, collect their welfare check and keep having babies. We are footing their bill too and they are US citizens to lazy to work. How about some incentive for them to stop collecting the money we work for and pay taxes on. it doesn't seem fair for some lazy loser to get benefits for nothing and some "illegal" being penalized for picking strawberries. why can't we force these welfare scammers to do the jobs illegals are doing?
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