Isn't it pernicious &crazy that many citizens either naturalized or nativeborn of immigrants want passionately
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People who come migrate to another country legally jump through all sorts of hoops to get their citizenship, they don't appreciate people getting the same things they're entitled to just because they knew a back passage.
It's like waiting in line to see a movie for 5 hours only to see someone push, and elbow everyone out of the way and get in after 2 minutes (and not pay for the privledge either).
FOR THE LAST TIME, IF YOU WERE BORN HERE YOU ARE NOT AN IMMIGRANT! LEGAL CITIZENS HAVE THE RIGHT TO KICK ILLEGALS OUT OF THEIR COUNTRY.
You are so right. This is the land of opportunity.
man, i could have sworn i was in 2007 and not the 1800s. why do people bring the past up to justify the wrong doings of illegals? go figure.
This is a common tactic of the pro immigration crowd. They refuse to admit that this argument is weak and flawed. You simply cannont compare those who originally immigrated to America to those immigrating to America today. Then America was and undeveloped and non-industrialized nation. Those who originally immigrated to America deveolped it, passed immigration laws, and turned it into the great industrialized nation that it is today. To make this comparison is a far stretch and obvious the pro immigration crowd has no further tools of persuasion left in their weak arsenel.
Hey "Pro-Bush" bet you didn't know I risked my life defending your right to put me down during the first gulf war as an officer in the Air Force. Would you be brave enough to say something like that not just to me but to any military officer? How about any of the enlisted military men and women who also defend your right? I didn't think so. Think before you speak and you will not make out to be such the fool you are. Care to re-phrase your statement on what I have done for not just you but for every single citizen of the United States? Didn't think so. There are much better men and women than you who will do so on your behalf.
I don't know about you but I'm a Native American. Born and raised in Phoenix, Arizona. I am of Irish/Norman decent but I was born HERE. That makes me a NATIVE. If I want to keep people that want to come here illegally out, that is my right as a Native American citizen. You can't really call me a hater because I don't hate illegals. They are criminals plain and simple.
no. the people who came here legally worked hard to do so. illegals broke the rules, the same rules the the immigrants criticizing them had to follow.
if i worked to earn money to buy an xbox, id be mad that everyone else stole one from the store
Times and objectives have changed since 1900. It doesn't matter if they haven't committed acts of violence, because in my (and fellow legal Americans) books, it is still a crime!
Times have changed. We can't keep having this happen in this country. Work, opportunities, and chances are becoming increasingly hard to come by. These opportunities should be saved for us! You should NOT have any say (if you weren't born here or are illegal)...
wow we got interesting people here specially JConly from the newly built trailer park in west Michigan. as long as we got people like Jconly who can read and write..illegals aren't going anywhere. that guy is not only attaking illegals but all the legal immigrants. he is talking about ancestors like he has actually done something for this country besides making a carrier out of collecting social security.
if people like JConly attack all immigrants then obviously all the minorities, plus more...will feel sympathetic towards illegals and they wont go anywhere without a civil war.
and to answer your question, i totally agree with you. so far we only have about 14 to 20 million illegals which is about .046% of your population. deportation is not ethical but total amnesty is also not right. we should kick illegals out who have commited crimes and let the families and hard working people stay in the country. but first we should build a big wall between mehico and usa so more illegals can't come in the country.
I think its crazy to try and compare 300 years ago to today.
And if you will read, most people arent tryin to punish them, they are trying to change how things are so that the illegals are not financially punishing us.
nope sorry there are criminal illegals my ex was one of them.
and i don't care, if you were born here you are a u.s citizen and have every right to express yourself.
you need a reality check.
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and your quote does you no justice, it means look at the past see what it has done for us. and move on towards the future.
it does not mean repeat the pass as you see fit.
if we kept repeating our past we'd be stuck in the same exact place. the past consisted of a different era in life. much harder and very unruly. now "the future" the united states has established itself. and iS very different from the "past" so we can not repeat the "past" we can only move forward. to do so we've established rules to govern us and to protect our economy. illegals are harming us. legal immigrants do not harm us. we cannot as a nation take in every single person in this world. we will have a collapse. WHY? because the past you refer to had significantly less people. now look at 2007. finacially our goverment our economy cannot handle much more. we are already at 300 million people. now that is a lot different then how much we had in the past.
additional again.
YOU ARE REFFERENING TO TWO DIFFERENT KINDS OF PAST. SCIENCE AND HISTORICAL HISTORY.
ALTHOUGH SCIENCE AND HISTORY DO HELP US LEARN FROM THE PAST YOU CANNOT APPLY OLD HISTORICAL HISTORY TO OUR SITUATION RIGHT NOW. THERE IS NO WAY YOU CAN JUSTIFY DOING THAT. THOSE WERE TWO DIFFERENT WORLDS.
SCIENCE HELPS US PROGRESS, WE LEARN FROM IT. WE PROGRESS FROM IT. BUT JUST REMEMBER IT IS ALWAYS EVOLVING, WHAT WE BELIEVE YESTERDAY AS SCIENCE WILL CHANGE TOMORROW BECAUSE WE ARE ALWAYS FINDING OUT NEW THINGS.
HISTORICAL HISTORY, YOU CANNOT CHANGE. BECAUSE THAT IS HISTORY. OF COURSE UNLESS SOMETHING NEW IS DISCOVERED.
ANYWAYS. WE LEARN FROM OUR HISTORY. BUT WE SHOULD NOT REPEAT IT. BECAUSE WE'D STILL BE IN THE SAME PLACE. IMMIGRATION WAS A NECCESITY HUNDREDS OF YEARS AGO BUT TODAY IT IS NOT PRACTICAL.
AND YOU CAN;T TWO-FACE YOUR QUESTION, IT IS WHAT IT IS.
"Isn't it pernicious &crazy that many citizens either naturalized or nativeborn of immigrants want passionately
to punish undocumented immigrants who came to America for many of the same good reasons they or their ancestors came for when they came to America?"
THIS IS WHAT I'M REFERENING TO.
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