Are H1B PERM jobs REALLY jobs Americans won't do?
Portions of the conference were posted to YouTube earlier this week and have now been picked up on CNN. It's hard to imagine a more damning sequence of footage. While the 'comprehensive reform' legislation being pushed in the Senate requires that Americans must be offered jobs first, before new visas are issued, Cohen & Grigsby's crew cleared up just how that process actually works.
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there is always an American that will do a job out there, as long as a company will pay them even a semi-competitive wage. In otherwords, as long as it isn't far below industry average, an American will do the job.
With things like this occuring, along with temporary employment agencies tricks, the job market is far worse than anyone can imagine.
Before I went to college, i worked for a pharmacy, in their wharehouse where i worked for them under a contract from a temp service for 2 years. When they caught on to the idea that the state didn't put up with people being employed in temp positions permanently, they switched temp services and made us either work under the new temp service at the same wage, or lose our jobs that didn't have any benefits whatsoever.
This is the typical thing that is going on in our "great economy". It is no wonder the Dow is going up, while people are losing their homes, and the home market is flopping.
The job market isn't as peachy as some people would have you believe.
Both are good examples how the American economy, is a snake eating its own tail. Corporations big businesses,a nd soem small ones are forsaking their own countrymen, for the love of money. When you see them making a "guest worker" program, and helping other countries build stock markets, you know they are working against the American worker. But they are keeping their promise of lowering the taxes you pay, because the amount of taxes you owe will go down right along with your wages.
The real frightening thing, is even temp services are egtting into the skilled labor market, and hiring people with advanced to degrees for temps. but hey...it keeps the DOW going up, so all is fine...right?! as long as you aren't American, and don't plan on becoming American it is.
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no - they're jobs offered to immigrants that the Big companies want to hire.
One of my cleints is owned by a Taiwanese family. I cannot communicate with most of their employees as they speak little English and I speak little Mandarin.
When they post their jobs for engineers or IT they set unrealistic requirements so no Americans fill the bill, but the catch is neither do the Taiwanese brought in under H1B.
I have never bought into the whole “doing jobs Americans won’t” thing. Americans will do any job at a “fair wage”.
I work with a lot of people here on H1B visas. The people I know are highly-educated, English-speaking people from India that have technical skills that the American colleges are not teaching.
India has great technical education programs which jump to teaching new technologies BEFORE they're released. The American schools don't even start teaching these technologies until many years after they're released.
I've also noticed that most of the H1B visa holders I know make a concentrated effort to become American from a cultural perspective.
Now that's a lot more than I can say about the uneducated, criminal, non-English speaking illegals...
Heck no. Their goal is cheap. Bottom line. How many people go to college and get training to get a higher paying job? About everyone! Now it's gonna be a tough sell to keep people shelling out massive amounts of money for education when it amounts to nothing. No increase in income.just status quo with all the other low wage earners. I saw it happen to my profession. Starting pay was 10 an hour + lots of benefits back in the 70's. Now you're lucky you get 6. They are telling people with degrees now that they still don't "match up" on the global market. I don't buy that. If many are being educated here as well..how are our citizens less qualified? They just want everything for nothing. Heck.you make more money as a drug dealer or a phony ID maker than a surgeon or lawyer. Why bother putting yourself in debt for an education that gets you minimum wage when it requires nothing more than a discrete lifestyle, connections and guts to make 10 fold more? And they wonder why so many drop out of highschool? I wouldn't trade my education for anything...but it doesn't get me the pay anymore. My husband has a friend in the computer field. He's traveled all over the world training people and now...his job is being outsourced. There are people here willing, able, and educated to these jobs...just not for nothing.
I'd much rather they be honest and tell people we will go under as a country if we pay people the 1'st world wages in 3'rd world "global" competition....instead of playing this game of claiming we need all these people to do these jobs. Just seems to me the greedy elite want to collect as many marbles as they can before game over is called.
Its not that they won't do them, we just don't grow enough of our own. Another sad commentary on our education system. Critical shortages exist in engineering sciences, computer sciences and a number of specialized skill sets all relating to technology. I can't find enough of them but can't hire H-1B workers because of required security clearances.
These are jobs that companies want to pay the least amount to fill. This attorney should be disbarred and his colleagues who actively seek to deny jobs to Americans as well. They can then pick strawberries to make a living.
Americans have a strong work ethic, however we expect to be paid a proper salary.
As for the Senate, there is no assurance that a company can't interview Americans first, then hire someone else.
Vote them out, let them go pick grapes and blueberries..oh yeah, most of them are rich and wouldn't have to work.
I was interviewed a while back. It was suspicious. They did interview me at the site that I might be working at, and they did not show me around nor did they appear interested in interviewing me. Months latter, I got a letter from teh government, telling me that they wanted to hire a guy from Africa, and ask me if there was a shortage in my field. I wrote back that there was no shortage and described my concerns. In the medical field, they would freeze the salary so no AMericans would want to work on these jobs for the low wages they offer, and then go to government to hire from with out. The problem is that they get their employees from the Philipines, which its well known that many of them buy their college degrees and that even their government helps them cheat on the board exams. It's also known that colleges in India is unregulated and many of them are just diploma mills.
Edit: Half the Filipinos I know are working jobs below what they studied in their home, because they can't pass the boards. Most of them do not even appear qualified enough to take the boards.
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