Is the illegal immigration debate only about race?
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If the Canadian came here illegally, flew the Canadian flag instead of the American and only spoke Quebeqios, then I wouldn't want them either.
Illegal is illegal whether the immigrant is Canadian, Chinese, Russian, Mexican, or from Mars. If they are here illegally, I cordially invite them to leave.
they will say no , but you are 100% correct.
It is about illegal immigration. We cannot allow so many people here who do not know the language and will not assimilate.
NO! It is about legal and ILLEGAL ALIENS!
You are way off line about why Americans would cross the Canadian line. "I" for one am a VETERAN! I am VERY MUCH AGAINST ANY ILLEGAL ALIENS HERE! They need to be deported because they owe allegiance to another country and NOT THE USA!
The only reason WHY you say it is "Racist" is because you don't have a leg to stand on because it is ILLEGAL and you know it!
No. Look at our schools. Look at our hospitals. Look at our social services. Look at our wages. You aren't being candid at all.
yeah, its completely hypocritical. like the guy with TB. if he came through the us-mexican border, everyone would be upset and yelling and screaming. but since he came through the us-canadian border, its all of a sudden alright.
No because Mexicans and American for the most part are of the same race. This is about Mexico and others, that was to export their poverty at our expense
Excellent work; if you cannot win an argument based on facts then call the opposing side a racist. I doubt that anyone has bought into that since the 1970's but you can try.
If your little race baiting thing does not work out you could always say it is for the children. That is another debate tool that does not rely on those pesky little things called facts.
Blind justice is what we have if we enforce our laws on immigration.
the presidential hopefuls did address the Canadian problem with illegals from that country. Some of them anyway, and said not only Mexico but Canada needed more monitoring and patrol.
Yes it has. Race has everything to do with it.
it is a FACT that their are drug tunnels (known and unknown) beneath the us/canadian border
http://www.cnn.com/2005/us/07/21/border.
is is a FACT that people have exploited the canadian border
(terriosts and the guy with TB)
It shouldn't be about race. And if there were 12-20 million canadians here who are not paying taxes or are paying very little taxes, we would still have a problem. I've said this a few times here on Yahoo. The only reason why Mexico is in the spotlight of this issue is because it is the border with them that is unprotected. If there are other countries with such easy access into the U.S., we would have massive illegal immigration from those countries as well.
This is not a racial issue and those who are turning it into one have another agenda. If you offer easy access for a free ride, many will take advantage. Canada doesn't have the social, economic and political problems that Mexico does. If our northern neighbor had been a country with the same challenges Mexico has, we would have twice the number of illegal immigrants in the U.S.
It would all depend on how those Canadian behave. If they were sucking our social programs dry, if they were making up 30% of our prison population, If they causing our hospitals to close, if they were causing our children to get a lesser education and were stealing our identity to to steal jobs, then yes I would have major issues with them.
Not all illegals are brown, so you are the one with the racist assumptions.
The big deal is some of hijacker's for 9-11 come from Canada border not Mexico border.
Yes, it is about racism for some.For others, they want laws enforced.Anyone who says, for some it is NOT race based, is not being honest...
It is about illegal immigration. While Mexicans are the most cited it is because they comprise 85% of the illegal entry into our country. Central American and South American countries account for about 8%. Most of them blend in through the Hispanic communities. Canadians account for about 3%.
It is purely about legal.
NO! Did you ever hear anyone say, (and I quote'),MONEY TRUMPS PEACE?
Billy B, you are young and need some education:
When you make comments like this:
"their own fault is speaking spanish and having brown skin.:
YOU! turn this into race
When you say:
" illegal immigration from canada to the usa is becoming a problem. sure its not by the millions and not as problematic as mexico, but an illegal canadian would blend more in american society than an illegal mexican would."
You mix your race question with nationality, plus you take all the air out of your argument by stating what is known by all: part of the problem with illegal immigration is the fact that MILLIONS come from Mexico. While we surely don't want illegal immigration from the north or south, we tend to turn our attention to where the MILLIONS are coming from, which makes sense.
When you say:
" i bet that the same people who oppose illegal immigration would be the first in line to illegally cross the canadian border in the event of a draft."
You bother people like me who have served in the armed forces (I am two months shy of my 19th year of continuous armed forces services). I oppose illegal aliens, I don't run to Canada. This is just simply a mean statement meant to get people upset, shame on you.
When you say:
"BTW, illegal immigration IS illegal immigration. it doesn't matter that its a poor mexican worker or a rich canadian businessman, they are both still illegal."
You finally make a statement which people can discuss.
In short, this isn't about race, it is about millions of people who cross illegally in search of a better life. Unfortunately, they bring a diproportionate amount of crime with them (MS-13 gang is not home grown!), not a lot of marketable job skills and end up being a huge drain on our social systems and therefore our economy.
It is unfortunate that you choose to see this as a race issue. It is a numbers issue. The numbers coming over are too great and we are slowly reaching a point where our economy will suffer as we try to support the numbers.
Illegal is illegal.But it doesn't help when foreign flags are waved,non-english is spoken,gang crime increase,social services abused,etc.etc.
Definition of illegal : law against the law: forbidden by law
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Definition of illegal immigrant : illegal immigrant: somebody who has entered a country illegally
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I don't see any mention of race here do you?
Why don't all you idiots who want to bring race into this just look at the facts? If a white man robs a bank is it better or worse than if a black man does? I say no, and I am sure you would agree. So your question shows in fact that you are the racist, not those of us who wish our country rid of all illegal aliens not just Mexicans.
Thank You Billy. I agree 100%. I couldn't have said it better. If they don't have problems with "brown skin", then why are there posts on MyTend.com that say 'in 50 years hispanics are going to be majority', or "Go back to Mexico" or some other dumb argument. The simple fact is that if there were only fair skinned illegals, they would have been given 'amnesty' a long time ago.
NO. If we were to allow unchecked illegal immigration, even if only to fellow whites outside of the US, we would have an essential "open borders" policy in place. We would lose sovereignity, and have a much harder time running our country.
Also, we don't have infinite carrying capacity, and even if we did, it wouldn't be aesthetically good for the US - we don't want to have to take cabs in EVERY city like we would have to in New York City, for example.
That being said, there are a few things about non-white immigrants that make people uncomfortable:
1) They don't tend to assimilate well, as opposed to white immigrants, and in the case of Mexicans, many disdainfully think they even OWN this country, which is why many speak Spanish in public, even when not required (ie. they and the person they speak to know English).
2) They tend to be overfertile and overpopulate many cities given a few years. Again, the capacity point. Most white immigrants have 1-2 children each, if that - they don't threaten the population balance.
3) They are the MAJORITY illegally immigrating. Sure, you hear about the occasional Brit, Russian, or white Canadian breaking in, but it's actually kinda rare.
Yes, it's about race! The race to protect our country's jobs and economy for the children of our own country........
No It is not only about race. You say that if there were 12-20 million "White English Speaking" canadians comming here then nothing would be done. That is not true. if you look back in history. the Irish were the most discrimminated against. there were signs in cities like New York boston Philadelphia and Baltimore that read" NO Irish Need Apply!" The Irish could not get good jobs and they competed for the low paying jobs as maids and governesses for the rich peiople kids against the poor blacks (negroe women) back then for those jobs as maids. the Irish had to undercut the blacks and work for less. They suffered very much.
Also when the Italians and Polish and Germans came they were forced to learnEnglish as there were no bi-lingual govt programs for schools and translating govt forms into any language.
Also from 1924-1965 there was so little immigration of people comming into the US because there were limits to the amount of people who could come in. This started in 1924 when the amounts of immigrants comming through "ellis Island" in New York was drastically reduced. The American people were then at that time protesting the arrival of too many immigrants at that time. those immigrants were "white people" from Europe.
After 1924 when the flow of immigrants was drastically reduced the standard of living for "middle class-working class of american workers started to rise over time. Except for a short setback during the depression years of 1929-1936. Afterwards in the 1940's-1950's-1960's was the best time for middle class workers. Many people were able to buy a house and start a family and the wife could stay at home and the husband went out and supported a family with one job. also many jobs such had exellent benefits and guaranteed lfe long employment for their workes. the name of csuch companies were like The Telephone compay and IBM etc. Also ford Chrysler and GM had many workers who made cars and had good paying jobs and life long employment. All this started to change in the 1970's after passage of the 1965 Immigration act which threw open wide the doors of unending immigration to America thereby increasing the work force and causing a steady downward trend of salaries and job benefits. There by the workers got less money and the start of two people working in a household began. Now you here of "Downsizing" a polite term for laying off workers. simply because there are now so many people looking for a job that if a worker demands a higher salary or more benefits the employer can say hit the road and there will be 100 people lined up for that one job opening.
Also you say that an Illegal Canadian or Irish man would blend into society better. Yes they would blend in easier becaue they would try and adapt to the new customs here. A Mexican immigrant or a chinese immigrant etc only wants to speak their own language and as for the Mexicans in Los angeles and in new Jersey when they go to the soccer tournaments at the stadiums they wave huge Mexican flags and they also boo the american soccer teams and they have been known to fill balloons up with urine and throw them at the american players.
Also in July 4th 1996 a group fo WW2 "american veterans had a small aparade in Los angeles civic center area and a group of Mexicans beat the american war veterans up and ripped the American flags out of their hands and ripped up and burnt the flags because the Mexicans did not want to see people waving american flags.
Also in the 1986 amnesty act all the illegal alien groups were given a chance to get amnesty and apply for permanent residence status. the only group under the 1986 act that was not allowed to get amnesty was "The Irish Illegal aliens they had to wait until 1998 when Bill Clinton finally allowed them to get "legal" stautus. The Irish Illegal aliens had to fight against that discrepancy in court. They ffinally got it.
Yes I agree that illegal immigration of any kind is illegal and that if 20 million white canadians were here or 20 million illegal mexicans or 20 million illegal asians etc were here then they all should be 'DEPORTED", because they are breaking the law no matter who the immigrant is.
But people would be concerned about any large group of illegals here because even if they were "white canadians" the job market would be harder and the schools would be over crowded with millions of kids whose parents are not paying school /property taxes to send their children to school while american citizens have to pay those taxes and for their own children plus the children of illegals.
The immigration dispute (complaint) on the part of the american people is not primarily one based on "race" but rather on quality of life such as increased crime overcrowded schools more than 50 percent ofcar crash victims are caused by 'drunk" immigrants' (illegal or legal). That is basically the problem
So I agree with you that it is illegal whoever is here illegally. Wheather rich or poor 'white' or "non-white"
Thank you for reading this.
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