If the only crime illegals committed was crossing the border illegally would you give them a chance?
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Yes I would give them a chance.
Our current immigration system is broken. Outdated and unrealistic visa allocations and rigid arbitrary caps preventing family reunification have created an environment which ENCOURAGES illegal entry – endangering citizens and non-citizens alike. The current system has resulted in the squandering of billions of ’ dollars on ineffective enforcement measures, a record number of deaths in our deserts, the exploitation of undocumented immigrant workers, and an extensive cottage industry for fake documents. The status quo simply isn’t sustainable when an estimated 12 million undocumented immigrants live in the shadows of our society with no opportunity to earn legal status. We need to weed out the criminal element and welcome the undocumented worker. Stop demonizing these people for seeking a better life, get them legal and to become a part of our country, paying taxes, etc.
Yes you are breaking the law. Come legally or don't come at all.
I should also say, if you come legally, then speak our language, adapt to our ways and abide by our laws. We should not cater to you or your language. I am tired of seeing signs in Spanish and catering to them in schools. Russians don't get that, Africans don't get that. Please. Learn English.
If they worked,didn't brake the law,didn't collect welfare - yes.
By the way,I will make them sign that they will not be eligible for welfare for the next 10 years
People who sneakily cross the border = illegal
Such people who commit crimes in US = Worse than illegals (should be deported immediately after serving a prison sentence for their crimes)
no one says they are the worst criminals, but I would still kick them the hell out even if the border crossing was their only criminal act. You have to consider the bankrupting of local schools and hospitals, and their failure to assume their tax burden.
This was asked of me in 1986, with the first so-called "immigration reform" act -- which was NOT enforced, and for which amnesty was not returned in good faith by the illegals then. We citizens of the U.S. were rewarded with MILLIONS more illegals.
No. No. No.
It is time for them all to go.
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I'm not a Republican. I am a citizen of the U.S.A., and don't give a whit that some sympathizers can't stomach the truth.
You are asking this question in the wrong forum. It is full of ignorant and uneducated bigots that only believe what their beloved republican party tells them. Republicanism should be a mental illness in my opinion. Anyways, absolutely. If trying to have a better life is the worst crime they committed, then I give them a chance.
No I wouldn't give them a chance. There are proper ways to enter this country. If they can't follow our rules then they don't belong here.
But the simple act of crossing the border illegally brings with it many other "crimes:"
over-burden in schools. Face it our education system isn't funded enough as it is, and these illegals are taking money from legal American kids
over-burden the econmy. Illegals don't pay taxes, yet reap the benefits paid for with those taxes
These two examples alone show a trend of taking money from lawful Americans. Therefore, crossing isn't their only crime. They are, by definition ROBBING the people in this country.
A chance to do what? Take all the jobs? There are only so many to go around. We need to limit the number of people coming here for the sake of our own citizens. And I don't hate them. I just understand that many of them come here because they want more than what they have, not because they are starving. We can't put their wants ahead of our own needs.
They ALREADY have a "chance". Everyone does.yet they blow it as soon as they become criminals. If they are illegal then of course they should get nothing from us except a swift kick in the *** out of the country.
I can't answer that because they do all of those things that you listed, so how could I know? I do know that I do not want to bear the load of educating them and watching them flaunt their ignorance by flying their flags and giving no respect to the country that they have invaded illegally. And I guess, I don't really hate them, I do hate what they've done and continue to do!
No.
Illegal is illegal.
They are certainly not the worst of criminals. The worst of the criminals is our government in its doing nothing to stop illegal immigration.
If we got the border actually secured first. I would have no problem with this debate.until then.no discussion as to new rights or anything else.
First off they are here illegally.. so they commited a crime.. Second off if I I don't hate them.
As far as a chance.. How about we be fair and give them the same chance their origionating country gives people wanting to immigrate there Heres a sample on immigration to Mexico. This comes from Mexexperience.com .. Mexico is not the only country that has strict rules for people immigrating once they arrive some countries are a lot stricter.. ..
.. Heres a few exerpts on immigrating to Mexico Requirements..
For Retired Immigrants to Mexico.. The Mexican Government requires that retirees have a proven fixed income of at least 400 times the daily minimum salary per month, and 200 times the daily amount for each dependent. If you own a house in Mexico, these figures are reduced, as they assume the inclusion of rented accommodation.
When you want to acquire permanent residency AND you want to work there
You will need to satisfy the requirements for entry (e.g. professional, sponsored by a company, etc), or be able and prepared to invest at least 40,000 times the minimum daily wage in Mexico City (see above).
Is it legal for a foreigner to work in Mexico?
Yes, provided that you have the right permit. You are not permitted to travel to Mexico, enter as a tourist and seek gainful employment there. You must have the correct migratory permits to do so before you go.
Permits are gained from the Mexican Government and are issued to people who are sponsored by companies in Mexico (or foreign companies with Mexican operations / subsidiaries), or by people with specific skills required in Mexico. You can enter Mexico to work for a foreign company provided that you do not receive any remuneration directly from a Mexican company or subsidiary.
Permits can also be arranged for investors (i.e. setting up your own company), but you'll need to invest 40,000 times the daily minimum salary* in order to qualify. Casual investors (for example, buying stocks on the Mexican Stock Exchange) can also get resident permits, although as with direct investment, you will need to invest the same amount as above.
*Multiples liable to change without notice
These mechanisms are in place to ensure that you will not be: a) taking jobs that Mexican nationals could otherwise have and/or; b) ensure that if you don't have an immediate income, you have the means to support yourself without relying on the Mexican State in any way.
What are the Immigrant Permits?
Immigrant Permits are issued to foreign nationals who have the intention of gaining permanent residency in Mexico. Under immigrant schemes, you are permitted to reside in the country, provided that you fulfil certain criteria (as specified by the type of permit) for a period of up to one year.
The permit must be renewed annually for a further four years in order for you to be able to apply for full residency status. If you wish to remain in Mexico as a "resident alien" after five years, you must apply for full residency status (there is a specific procedure to follow), and have this accepted. Once your application has been accepted and your "FM2" has been issued (see below) you are entitled to full rights and responsibilities as any other Mexican Citizen, with the exception of the right to vote.
Upon receiving this status, you will receive a document that looks like a Mexican Passport (called a "FM2") -- newer versions look like a driver's license -- which enables you pass through Mexico's borders as if you were a Mexican National. You do not need to surrender your national passport, which you'll use when you return to your home country: either for visits, or when returning home to dwell. If you stay outside of Mexico for longer than 2 years, or for 5 years in any 10 year period, you will lose your resident status in Mexico.
Listed below are the kinds of people who can apply for Immigrant Permits, with a view to taking up permanent residency in Mexico:
Retirees
If you are over 50 years of age, and want to engage in "non remunerative activities" and you are receiving funds from abroad (from a pension or other investments or fixed income) at least to the value of 400 times the daily minimum daily wage per month* and a further 200 times daily minimum wage per month for each dependent (e.g. spouse, children) then you can apply for a Retiree Immigration Permit. Read more about retirement in Mexico on Mexperience.
*Multiples liable to change without notice
Investors
You can receive an immigration permit if you are willing to invest your capital in Mexico. You investment can be directed at industry or services, and must equal a minimum of 26,000 times the minimum daily wage in Mexico City*.
*Multiples liable to change without notice
Professionals
If you are a qualified professional, you can have your certificates validated by the Mexican Consulate and apply for an immigration permit to live in Mexico. You must be sponsored by a company who must satisfy the authorities that you are essential to their operative requirements.
Artists and Sportspeople
These people can apply for an immigration permit. Each case is considered individually and entry is at the Interior Ministry's discretion.
What part of "illegal" are you having problems understanding?
There are thousands of people who wait patiently as they try to follow the rules and enter this country legally.
We have guidelines for legal immigration.
The scumsuckers who think that the laws "shouldn't apply to them" have no right to be here and no reason to think that they'd be welcome.
What about the masses of illegals who collect the welfare that my taxes pay? What about the difficultly I have getting a higher paying job because I am not bilingual?
I have nothing against people who come to this country legally.
The Immigration information post by website user , MyTend.com not guarantee correctness.
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