Question about Jobs Americans want do?
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Truthfully, most jobs on farms will never pay $25 per hour. However, these jobs will get done, as they did before illegal immigrants came on the scene, by legal citizens at a decent rate of pay, if not $25 per hour.
As someone else said here, the illegal immigrants are not just working on farms these days. They are infiltrating other jobs that used to pay a decent wage to legal citizens, including construction and factory jobs. These jobs used to pay a decent living, but the growing trend of hiring illegal immigrants over legal immigrants and citizens has reduced the wages in these occupations to where legal citizens and immigrants can no longer do them with taxes and all the other deductions coming out of their wages, at the rates that illegals do them when they do not have the taxes and deductions coming out of their wages.
As well, they are taking the jobs that used to be done by high school and college students while getting their educations, such as in fast food, restaurants, grocery stores, etc. Students no longer find it easy to get those jobs that used to teach them their work ethic and the value of a dollar and allow them to earn their own spending money while getting their educations. And, many senior citizens and stay-at-home moms used to benefit from many of these jobs on a part-time basis; also now they are not as easily able to find these jobs, thanks to the illegal immigrants.
Well I'm an American and I want to make lots of money working in a big corner office with leather furniture and a secretary
Due to corporate agriculture no american farmer can afford $25 an hour. But hey I'm from a farming family so hell yeah I'd do it!
Obviously you haven't had to take manure out of a barn with a pitchfork.
Trust me it isn't worth 25 bucks an hour.
No way, that is far too little money for that hard labor.
There is no job that Americans would not do; the issue is whether or not the salary pays the bills. There's no point going to work every day if you end up deeper in debt doing it.
And yes, I would take such a job.
I wonder if anyone of this forum has seriously asked themselves who did all of these jobs in the past, when farm work was a hell of a lot less mechanized and there weren't a significant number of illegal aliens to perform them.
These are entry level jobs at best - I worked on a farm for three years when I was in school. And for a whole lot less than $25.00 an hour - more like $35.00 a week!
I was able to buy an old car after just one season ($75.00) and still had enough left over to legally register it.
It certainly didn't do me any harm to clean out the chicken coops and gather up the potatoes - in fact, it may have instilled a little work ethic and pride.
It is unrealistic to expect a farmer to pay $25.00 an hour - but for a entry level wage, he wouldn't have any trouble getting his crops brought in by legitimate citizens.
Most Americans will work, as most have families to take care. With the exception of my ex daughter in law. Everything was so beneath her, that she was willing to let her kids do without, which included food and heat.
Back in the 70s there were people standing on the street corners: WILL WORK FOR FOOD - etc.. very few hired them because in their eyes, these people could get a job if they wanted it. Excuse me! These people were becoming increasingly homeless. Now, we bend over backward to hire the illegal aliens, before our own citizens.
If a man or woman need to eat, have shelter, etc, they will work.. Do the very best you can with whatever job you have!
It is pretty obvious that if American businesses paid any amount that is not a slave wage - Americans would do the job. American workers did not lower their wages, illegal aliens pandering for jobs did.
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La Raza's Step-by-Step Plan to takeover the United States:
http://www.firesociety.com/forum/thread/...
1. Replicate the civil rights movement, and ally with African American groups.
2. Develop statistics that are not true to use as propaganda to sway Americans.
3. Push “special programs” for Hispanics only.
4. Advise illegals on staying in the USA, and gain sympathy by "sad story", and "we do the work Americans won't do" propoganda.
5. Gain amnesty.
6. Encourage the lie that the southwest "belongs" to Mexico.
7. Change political structure and laws by bringing in millions of
hispanics over time.
8. Pressure American corporations to support them, by “secret deals" for rewards by their people's spending power.
9. Attack opposition with racist labeling, so that opponents waste time defending it.
10. Continue receiving aid from US and Mexican governments.
Do you really think that illegal immigrants want to jobs that no American wants to do? Do you think they struggle and risk all to come here and do menial work? Well, that's what Bush wants you to believe. I think they want what everyone wants. . .the American dream. They come here for your job.
we would invent a machine to do the work, cause we don't want to pay $ 100.00 for 5 lbs potatoes
What keeps the farm industry from developing machinery that would replace these invaders, and harvest vegetables in a much more sanitary way, is the simple fact that they're addicted to cheap labor.
i work in a hospital shoveling manure and get paid More than that. you should see all the illegals without sss coming in and getting free healthcare. they always just say, no speak english. cant remember their home address
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its the farmers who don't want to pay minimum wage. so they hire illegal so they can pay less.
I am considering changing jobs. I would be more than willing to pick fruit for a living. Unfortunately I can't pay my bills by working only 3 or 4 months out of the year. Illegal immigrants who come up here temporarily for work can afford it because of their poor economy. Three months American pay will probably get you by for a year in Mexico.
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