American Flag dispute!?
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Your mother is correct on the etiquette. I lived across the street from an elderly lady and her husband who were both vets. Every morning they displayed the flag and every evening took it down complete with the entire proper way of folding it. It was very moving. We always knew something was wrong when that flag wasn't out. I will never forget the reverence in which they folded the flag and presented it to me when my father died. When you are raised showing that kind of respect it should be a wake-up call for those who think the flag doesn't mean much to Americans or that it's "no big deal". See if you can find a solar spotlight. That will please your mom when you prove it's still proper and husband because he can have the flag out all the time and she'll just have to deal with where it's hung. It is your home.
She is correct in a way. Rules of etiquette regarding flying the flag does state the flag should be taken down during hours of darkness, unless it is illuminated during these hours. But then again whose name is on the deed?
god you lot need to get a life
seriously, and very soon i think, OK we get it your patriotic, we all are some of us just don't need to overcompensate
god only in America could you argue about the correct way too hang a bloody flag
and in answer to the last bit i think your all mad
Technically I think your mother is right. I think it is supposed to be taken down in the evening and put away etc. You may get a better response in a different forum and not a immigration forum.
If he is not lighting it, then it is not legal and is disrespectful. Your mother grew up at a time when it was not legal to fly the flag at night, period.
I would take it down except for holidays and such. If you just leave it up, it gets to be meaningless. If you have lights on it at night you can leave it up. If not, then take it down.
By the way, lighting means direct illuminations- a floodlight focused on the flag or something like that.
Your mother is probably right on this one.
Check proper flag ettiquite. If the flag is to be hung up all the time, there has to be a light on it at night. My father-in-law put a big flagpole up in his front yard with a light on a timer, so the flag has a light on it. It flies rain or shine. I take mine in at night, and do not fly it when it rains, mostly because I don't want it destroyed. However, it is up every other day. Your mom and boyfriend are going to have to come to some common ground. I think there may be more issues going on besides the flag. Also, mom does need to back off a little. The flag being flown is NEVER trashy. It is your house, and if he wants to fly the flag, as long as he is observing proper rules, then he should fly the flag.
Sounds like a Jerry Springer episdode. And why is this in the "Immigration" category?
It's funny how much people will argue over a flag, but how little time they take to debate a war that costs thousands of lives.
If you have a light on it, it can be displayed 24/7. We have retired Marines that do this. It is flown when it rains.
We had a huge flag that was flown after 9/11 that covered our garage (it was really big). I was proud to fly that flag 24/7!
tell your mom to get bent. she lives with you. didn't your parents ever say to you "my house: my rules"?
It's OK to leave the flag up at night, just as long as there is a light (such as a floodlight) that is shining on it!!
Maybe your boyfriend can reason with her. He can hang it during the day and take it down and fold it up at night. That way your mom gets a little of what she wants and your boyfriend gets a little of what he wants. Sounds like a good compromise to me.
Your mom sounds like she is around my age, and I feel the same way she does about the flag. However, she is living with you and your husband. I would recomend you take your husbands side on this one. It is his home. And remind your mom, that the American flag looks great no matter where it hangs and never looks trashy. Give your mom a hug. She is just trying to gain a little control back. Being a mom myself, control is hard to give up.
It isn't disrespectful in my mind to fly the flag that much. However I'll say that she is correct about the ediqute regarding that. However if it is Your house she should only be able to make suggetions on matters like that. She shouldn't have any final say in the matter if it isn't her house.
If she can't respect that then she shouldn't stay unless she's paying rent.
You need to face facts.
In the way of "proper", your mother is right.
But I do have to know where your mother thought she had a right in removing something from a building she has no vested interest in. If my mom saw the same thing, she would have just said something about the proper way to display the flag, and that would have been that. How did your mother think she had the right to just remove something from a structure she doesn't even own???
Flag etiquette says that you should take it down at night except in times of war...but the flag must be lit up at night if it is to be left up.
House etiquette: Whose house is it? If this is your mom's house, she has every right to decide where/when things like this go up/down. If she is staying with you guys in your home, you should probably to tell her to respect your boyfriend's authority in his own home.
Your mother is correct in terms of etiquette. In order for the flag to be flown all the time, a light has to be on it at night. Otherwise the flag has to be taken down at sunset, folded properly and then placed back on the pole at sunrise.
Tell them both to quit being children and sit down and find a compromise.
your mother is right. ask your old man if he can compromise and take it down at night.
It should be hung during the day and lowered at night. Your mom is right. Look it up on the internet, print it out and show it to your boyfriend so that he will understand.
Well, if it is your and your husband's home, it is your and your husband's decision about what looks 'trashy'. I think the people in Beverly Hills who have flags on their houses would be a bit surprised by the 'trashy' comment, but then my grandmother always did say Beverly Hills was 'new money', so who knows...
I never thought our flag was 'trashy'.
It is a fact that the flag is not supposed to fly without a light on it, but some people get around this by having a 'solar powered solar switch' flood light on theirs at night. You can get them at a good hardware store. You can suggest that. I suspect your mother will think that is even worse, if she thinks the flag is 'trashy' to begin with, but it would solve the flag etiquette problem.
Good luck!
Although your mother is right in theory about the flag, It is considered ok to leave a flag out day and night to show your support of the country. But the big thing is this is your house, so you can do what you want to do as long as it is legal and dosn't hurt anyone. As I see it, if she is this way over the flag, she will probably be causing problems for you on other things as well..
Your mom has a control issue. She must have some kind of underlying issue for her to behave this way. You can hang a flag day/night rain/shine as long as it's illuminated. But if it gets tattered, it needs to be replaced.
First of all, how does the flag look "trashy"? I would love to hear the answer to that.
This is the US, and if she does not want to see you flying the American flag, tell her to find another place to live.
If the flag has a light on it (like a spot light or porch light at night) I think its alright to have it up all the time. We fly ours all the time and it is illuminated at night. There is no way the American flag would ever look trashy . It should not be torn or ragged but our flag never looks trashy. Id find mom a new place to live. (no disrespect )
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