If all of you anti-immigrants know anything about history, I imagine you now know how the indians felt?
you came in, masssacred the indians, and stole their land. Now you have the audacity to complain. At least the Mexicans aren't taking land which YOU stole.
(and respond as you wish. A 12-year old girl who is my younger sisters' friend was discussing this very issue in class the other day. We were talking about it today. In a way, she is right.)
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It's amazing how people will agree with the likes of illegals_r_whiners who by the way has shown to be a very ignorant person.
All of the anti-immigrant (which is what they really are as a result of media fed fear) are fed controlled numbers. For example, it is said that "illegals" only make up about 10% of the construction work force, personally, I think it's WAY more than that and how would they know how many make up the work force, they are undocumented. And the other infamous figure the whole 99% of murder warrants in L.A. are for illegal aliens thing. That is complete and total BULL, they act as if people born here committed no crime, as if white Americans aren't capable of being drug dealers and murderers. That kind of crap pisses me off.
The Mexicans haven't taken the land we stole? Heck, they massacred the Indians for their land and the land we stole too.
Every country got their land that way. However, we built the services, the economy the schools and the infrastructure people are coming for, and we have the right to say who and how many can come.
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The latest of my relatives came in the 1860's. They and their neighbors contributed land and with their own hands built a school and a church. They passed the hat for a teacher and a preacher, and their daughters taught in the school (which bears my mother's maiden name.)
Don't you tell ME what we built or didn't build.
Yes and the indians are still angry about it till this day, so obviously every passing ethnicity will feel the same - maybe in 100 years the Mexicans will be angry that some other nation is coming in and 'stealing' their land, opportunities etc.
I've seen very few that are anti-immigrant. But I am very anti-illegal alien.
Virtually no one in this country is "anti-immigrant". WE ARE ANTI ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GET IT STRAIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You will never get an anti illegal immigrant to admit the relevance of that historical fact. I am glad that young people are discussing these issues.
I paid 28 bucks and a pack of cigarettes for my acreage
Who is YOU ? YOU is me ,YOU is YOU ,I didnt do it ,you didnt do it .We didnt do it .So I concure YOU are blameing the wrong people .
That is history and I am not anti illegal inmigrants. But something have to be done YES big time. Nobody stole anything to the Mexicans. I think you need to study history about what really happend so...Indians? well that is history
you don't know crap about history. The "evil" white man tried to live amongst the ""noble" American Indians, they made lousy neighbors. They tortured for weeks on end, killed, and sometimes ate the settler families.
The Indians did have the Government do them wrong. But look what the taxpayer now pays the Indians. If you don't believe me look at the Bureau of Indian Affairs website.
The Mexican people are not nationals or citizens of the United States. I think it is sad that they fail to recognize no one wants them here , but rich republicans.
Yes, but today we hate immigrants even if they are the life blood of the economy as has always been true. Even the Republicans want immigration.
I guess the aboriginals are still pissed of about the early Americans ending so many lives and put them on reservations that could barely support life.
There were more of us and it's there own fault they're extinct for not assimilating into our society.
And you have the mentality of a 12 year old girl!
I did NOT "come in and massacre" anybody! No matter how we acquired this land, the FACT remains that it is our land, and we will not give it up to these invaders without a fight! And, WE have better weapons!
I was born near some precise hills, it´s the place I belong to, the place I want to raise children and die...
It´s my land and the land of my ancestors
And my american wife has troubles understanding it. Maybe she should have thought about before passing me the ring on the finger !!!
first of all, "i" didn't steal any land from anyone. my ancestors didn't do that. just some black people think that just because you're white you should apologize for slavery, even though my family wasn't even there during that time period.
second of all, i have no objection to people coming to this country, it's people who don't go through naturalization i have a problem with. don't you think we have a right to be a little afraid after 9/11 about immigrants?
What are YOU?? An ILLEGAL??
It's good how you make up the story that you want to tell. If you say it loudly enough, and often enough, people might just start to believe you.
Most people in this country were never anti-immigrant, but some are becoming scared as immigrants riot in the streets.
Most of us never massacred a Native American, and few people in history participated in that. Also, some of the tribes began the wars. It wasn't only Europeans who can be blamed for war.
Also, Mexicans are not somehow more "perfect" because they are of a different nationality. The Spanish who are ancestors of most Mexicans also engaged in wars.
Most importantly, though, you talk like a racist. None of this is about white or black or Mexican or Indian. We're all individual people. I don't represent my race or anyone else's. It isn't about "us" and "them". There isn't a battle between Mexicans and Americans, nor between "Native Americans" and European-Americans. You can't create this battle. Most of us of all races are content to live side by side in the same nation, but we want to preserve our heritage of a FREE nation - one that doesn't make laws based on race, and one that preserves INDIVIDUAL rights. One that only asks people to live within the basic laws of the land.
It's never been about what group you came from. It's all about individual rights and responsibilities. That's what America is all about. Can you put all the hatred aside for a moment and focus on what's important?
I didn't do anything to any American Indians or any blacks or anyone else. The land I am on was bought and paid for and until I die or sell it...it is mine.
Serious case of mis-placed agression and hatred. I find it funny since one of the big pro arguments is not making the "anchor babies" responsible for their parents actions and you are drudging stuff up from over hundreds of years ago expecting "whites" to pay for it all and many weren't even here yet, never hurt an indian, never owned a slave and never did anything to anybody.
Enough of this sick stuff. If you are going to hate atleast put the blame where it belongs. Unfortunatly they are all dead and gone and have been for a long time. Get over it. Wars over. Deal with it.
most native Americans are anti illegal immigrants,you get it straight.Times have changed,get out of the stone age. And for your information my ancestors respected the indians,not all whites are bad,but I guess you cant see past your racism.
People like you are traitors to this country. You hate this country and our dedicated to making America a third-world nation. If I met you in person I would beat the living snot out of you. If I had a child in a class like that I would demand that this not be taught to my child, and I would inform the local and national media about this situation. Schools are teaching this countries children to hate America. This is not acceptable.
I know a lot more about history than you, and the history of the human race begins with violence, and has been none stop violence since then. Nations will always fight nations. I am proud of my country and proud of my ancestors. They conquered the Indian, Mexicans, and British to win this nation and they created the greatest country in the history of the human race. Traitors like you and your entire stinking family want to destroy it, but we will fight you and your La Raza buddies to stop you.
If you like the third-world so much why don't you move your whole treasonous family to Mexico. We are not anti-immigrant you liar, we are anti illegal alien! Get it.
America didn't steal land from the indians, the 13 colonies was conquered land (not stolen). the Louisiana Purchase was just that a purchase (not stolen). to fulfill manifest destiny the treaty of Guadalupe was signed and the SW of America was purchased from Mexico. Alaska, purchased from the Russians. America is consisted of 13 conquered lands and three purchases. the girl is just that a 12 year old, and hasn't studied American History thoroughly enough to know enough about this subject to argue the facts.
I am an American Indian. I live in the year 2007, imagine how I feel. I own a large ranch in Arizona at the border. I have illegal aliens trespassing on my land every month, some of them armed, committing vandalism. I sometimes have to discover and remove their dead from my land. This has been going on for twenty years. It is a second invasion. I am anti-ILLEGAL immigration. You need to make sure you put in the illegal part, otherwise you insult those immigrants who go through the process to live here legally.
The Spanish stole land from the American Indians, the Mexicans fought the American Indians to retain it and lost/sold the land to the British. I hate to say this, but if it the American Indians won, you would not be here, you probably would not exist. I would, I am full-blooded.
Vegaswoman - I have agreed with the brutal history many times, what are you talking about?
Waycar111- That answer is racist--WE WERE NOT SAVAGES! If we were we would have killed the whites as soon as they anchored ashore.
Bernard -- We are not extinct, our numbers are growing, and many of us do not live on reservations, so I guess that means that we have assimilated, don't answer questions that you know nothing about, that was very ignorant.
Patrick - The treaties were white man's lies, and the land was stolen by force (conquered).
When you have an intelligent question, not a rant, I will happily discuss this issue with you. Until then try not drinking and posting questions! BTW I am part Apache and actually share some of your views, I think you are too full of yourself to hear anyone else's views right now.
I love it when white Americans get so pissed off about illegals. All they can do is rant and rave. I hope we get another 20 million illegals. So the white Americans can get more pissed off. AAhooa !.
Get over it already.
and the mexicans stole land from the indians blah blah blah
Let's see where should I start.... first off not many Americans are Anti- Immigrant.. we are against illegal immigration not immigration. Second I didn't come in and massacre any Native Americans, nor did I steal any land - I wasn't born.... now my ancestors did not do great things, but the native Americans were not exactly innocent in the whole situation either... second of all we have paid into the Native Americans for our mistakes.... they have more benefits than the average American Citizen, we have compensated for what we have done to them in the past and are still... second of all most Native Americans are against Illegal immigration also. And of course you brought race into the issue.... which is absurd- the only racist people out there are the one's bring race into the issue.... we have many citizens and legal immigrants of many different races and heritages, so to say that we are racist because we don't want illegal immigrants in this country is completely ridiculous.. and taking a look at our country just in a store, would show you how ridiculous that statement is... race is only an issue when people bring it up- I am not illegal.. there was no country here before my ancestors, no country, no immigration, no illegal immigration. My ancestors built this country (and they did BUILD it) with their blood, sweat, and tears so that I their future would have the country that I live in today... This is a great country, sure Americans have their problems and they have done bad things in the past but for the most part Americans have learned from our many mistakes and a great country has come out of it.. so no I am not illegal- I'm an American Citizen and proud of it....
hola mi nombre es paco. deseo venir a tu país y traer a mis 13 niños y a 6 niños más thier y aspirarlos secos de todos sus resorces. sonreiremos y la opinión “te agradece” el hombre blanco. y cuando das vuelta diremos vete a la mierda greengo.
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This question has been asked a bilazon times....... blah bah blah blah
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