Do anti's really think out mathematicaly there "Immigration impact on the economy" argument? or is it emotion
no matter how much you say that there are Americans that would do the work for the right wage (and i seriously doubt even that)..even so, the companies CANT AFFORD to pay more
AMERICA"S economy is ENHANCING ITSELF on the labor of Immigrants
dont you people see the logic of that...
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WTF did you guys have like FIFTH grade math!
by being laborers they NECESARILLY need to be compensated less than they put in ...otherwise there would be no profit
JUST because YOU ALL dont see the profits doesnt mean its not here in America...Big Business just doesn't want to share it with YOU..
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They`re all just really passionate about it. (Some are being WAY too emotional though).
From what I know, most illegals are doing menial jobs that most Americans won`t do: such as fruit and vegetable picking, construction, working in laundry and clothing sweatshops, landscape maintenance, etc.) I can maybe understand construction, but with all the other jobs, I`m not hearing very many Americans complaining they lost their job to an illegal.
You`re right about the whole economic factor. It`s the free market at work. Why pay an American $25/hr when someone else will do the same job for $8/hr? People who can`t understand this are either retarded, or just refuse to learn.
The only reason I can justify for wanting illegals deported is their failure to pay taxes. If you`re living in a country and receiving the benefits of living there (public education, free clinics, etc.) then you`re obligated to pay taxes to maintain it.
If someone wants a better life in another country, so badly that they`re willing to risk their life getting there, and then live in squalor conditions while they pursue their dream, I wish them the best of luck. But if you`re going to live in that country for the long term, I believe you ought to contribute a portion of you`re earnings in taxes to help maintain it, just like everyone else.
Peace.
eh oh angry Mexican. Grab some heroine and a chick with some random STD and relax. Afterward please leave the US. Honestly, if US business relied on Mexicans that much, all of them would be out of business with a single bust.
once you throw them out, build a wall, then you could have a regulated guest worker program
With the proper guest worker program the current illegal aliens could return for the same wage to the same job.
Why are you yelling certain words? Maybe people will take you seriously if you tone down your anger.
we definetly help out this country!!.. wether these ignorant people want to see it or not. WE ARE AMERICANS and soon we will all be citizens therefore AMERICANS as well
it's THEIR,,,,not there
Sorry but your theory is flawed to say the least. It's a question of flagrantly violating the law without repercussion. It's also a matter of profits& GREED.
Understand if they keep driving down wages which hiring illegals does , no one will be able to purchase the crap they're producing. Then where will we be?
So if I read you correctly, A person who works should be forced to do more for less?
Have you ever heard of an honest days wages for an honest days work?
I believe everyone should come through the front door.
I am going to pay a dollar for a dollars worth of product. If that product is created by a person who works under the table, the owner of that company will make 95 cents per unit instead of 93 cents. His profits are up, he his happy, the illegal has screwed himself.
This you do not mind? I do not like it when even an illegal does an honest days work and does not get an honest days wages. YOU SHOULD ALSO.
Big business if giving you a line when they say they are only giving the job to someone who will do the work. Americans will not do this job...Somehow where they have made it impossible for the illegals to take the jobs, they have all been filled with Citizens and the prices have not gone up.
What happened to your eyes and your math.. You do not add correctly or fairly.,
Most American businesses love illegal immigrants, that's the only reason they are still here.
Its emotion, they don't think before they talk.
http://www.aclu.org/immigrants/gen/11665...
Don't be fooled by the stupid media and retarded politicians.
The USA built the largest industrial capacity in the world using LEGAL AMERICAN WORKERS.
They did it by building and manufacturing by being smart, efficient, and innovative.
The big business of today make a profit by exploiting the workers and driving the wage down by hiring illegal inferior workers.
The innovation and efficiency are a thing of the past.
European countries pay their workers much higher than the USA does and they are successful and profitable companies.
By working smart companies don't need inferior cheap labor.
Instead of criticizing others' Math education, perhaps YOU should use spell check and improve your grammar before you try to convince others of YOUR intellectual superiority.
LOL!!!
Construction and hospitality are the 2 industries that most employ illegals.. At one time not long ago you needed to be in a union to work on a construction site. It is underhanded contractors picking them up at home depot that are making all the money. Also, I have stayed at a hotel in May in a town in PA. with tough immigration laws and they were fully staffed. Hazleton , PA. I am sure you illegal lovers have heard of it. The fact is all of them would not be deported at once. The one still here would still be contributing to the economy as would the legal immigrants we let in every year.
I think you'll find this article interesting. Substitue U.S. for Canada and the article is just as relevant in the U.S. I've included a short excerpt and, of course, the link.
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But it is important to recognize the role that countries such as Canada play in creating the conditions which cause people to migrate in the first place, and how the Canadian state in turn uses this process to establish a cheap and vulnerable working class out of Third World migrant labour. To properly understand this, and assess its implications for activist work, we must address global capitalism and its relationship to imperialism, racism and nationalism.
So-called First World countries, including Canada, actively pursue policies in the Global South which push people to move. These imperialist policies involve military intervention and the imposition of economic imperatives that cause extreme impoverishment or outright destitution for local populations.
A good example of this is the role international financial organizations, such as the World Bank (WB) and International Monetary Fund (IMF), and rich creditor nations (who have the greatest influence in the WB and IMF) play in imposing structural adjustment programs on Third World countries in exchange for badly needed loans. Structural adjustment programs frequently include massive cuts to state welfare programs, the selling off of public assets and the reduction of tariff barriers to more competitive capital from the Global North. They have been widely criticized for leading directly to increased poverty, unemployment and ecological destruction. In many cases, lands have been so devastated by nearby industries and massive development projects funded by governments and multinationals of the North that people who live there have little choice but to move, while in some instances people are physically forced off their land or out of their communities.
http://www.newsocialist.org/newsite/inde...
I hate to break you the bad news, but American companies that hire illegal immigrants, like Wal-Mart, (yes, they have been known to hire a few illegals that slip through temporarily until their SSN's don't match or aren't real or whatever) pay them the exact same wages they pay the rest of their workers. I believe the workers who get paid less than they deserve are probably hired by farmers who rely on cheap labor to help them get their crops to market at a low price, because YOU don't want to pay $3.00 for an apple. Getting rid of illegal workers in this country is not going to bankrupt Corporate America. Yes, some illegal workers may take private jobs for less than minimum wage, but not by a lot less than minimum wage! They have to live here too, and find a way to send money home, and in case you haven't noticed lately, the cost of living is going up up up, not down down down.
Wages in this country are the lowest percentage of gross domestic product than they have been at any time since World War II, and before that was the Great Depression. That is from the fed, you can look it up.
The rich are making money by driving down worker wages and making the squeezed out workers fund 'benefits' like education and health care for the 'cheap, illegal labor'. There is no question but SOME are getting rich on this, but it is at the expense of the majority.
What you are saying is like saying drug cartels are good for Mexico's economy, because the drug lords get rich.
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And to Trevor, it is the rich that create those policies, and the workers HERE who already suffer for them. Take nafta. It is bad for Mexican workers but worse for US workers who see factories leave and illegals come in to drive down domestic wages further. It is not AMERICA that benefits.
? Where's the math?
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Math and who uses emotional blackmail.
http://www.miamiherald.com/460/story/172...
Thousands of these stories I'm sure of.
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-...
I took an oath to defend this country and enforce her laws. I have done so for many years and I will not quit now because some asshole wants to make an extra buck. I think the judges should enforce the laws on the books and put all the criminals in cages. If we need to build more like in AZ, so be it. the death valley is big and we could put millions behind the wire. I see no need to house or cloth them. They are costing the US Government to much as it is.
Yes. I have seen people from the moderate Anti side use economic principle more than any group. THe hing is the experts are split, How are we going to make sense of complex economic models when teh Experts can't.
Profitability is not the issue. If the company has to pay higher labor cost, it only means the company has to raise it's prices. Fairness is at issue. The companies who do use immigrants can bring down their price and those who don't have to follo w suit. It put's a greater pressure for companies to break the law.
As for We doen't see the profit, that's the point. Our economy has grown but our salaries has stagnated. That means the companies has room to give us raises. THe company is not in jeopardy, if profits are up. Our salaries has been moving backwards if you adjust it with inflation.
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