If an illegal document should be treated as a criminal, how many crimes are you guilty of?
If we US Americans then accuse them of being criminals because they are here "illegally" because there are laws against them, and subsequently, we should treat them as criminals, then, for all you USof A people who believe this, how many crimes are you guilty of? And since you ARE guilty of something, then should you not step forward and pay the price for your guilt?
*Have you ever "J-walked?" that is a crime (because it threatens your safety)
*Have you ever driven faster than the speed limit? that is a crime, again for safety reasons. What was your excuse? Because you wanted to get to where you were going an extra 5 minutes sooner? Because you did not plan well and are running late?
*Have you ever spit gum on the sidewalk, that is a crime
*Have you ever ridden a bicycle on the sidewalk, or against the traffic (most do), a crime
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I understand the premise of your argument but think it is non sequitor.
Personally I am fine with them staying as long as they are legalized and made to pay taxes like the rest of us. No more free health care etc. THAT is crimminal.
Are you equating traffic violations with document fraud ? Maybe we can have a illegal steal your legal documents and see how long it's takes for you to see the different
Ever day in the country myself and others are given all types of speeding tickets, jaywalking tickets, and we paid the fines, so does that means that illegals that get caught are doing the same, I don't think so, they are going to get amnesty. So then next time I get a DUI ( never got one but using it as a example) I can say that all the illegals got amnesty, and I demand it also, how far will I get.
I was guilty of speeding one time and do you know what happened? I had to go to court and pay a fine. I did the crime and I did the time, by the way the speeding ticket was close to $150.00 and had something like $40 in court costs. How are illegals being held accountable for breaking the law?
Cry me a river. It is never OK to commit a crime, regardless of your motivation. If they can't get a better life at home, tough. Fix their own country, because by coming here they lower the standard of living here.
We should start shooting them on site at the border as soon as they enter the US.
The question is not whether or not we committed a petty crime. THE QUESTION IS: HOW MANY PEOPLE CAN THE USA AFFORD TO JUST WALK IN, DRIVE IN,FLY IN, SHIP IN AND SUCK OFF OF OUR GOVERNMENT TEAT? We need protection from people who do not want to seek citizenship in the legal way which gurantees that we won't have to support them, have crimes committed against us by them, and to abuse our support systems set up for our legal citizens. So why can't you just try and get citizenship the legal way?? Huh???
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your reasoning is beyond stupid!! if i trespass into someones home or property, i am a criminal! if i steal someones identity-i am a criminal. i am an American citizen and i am entitled to live here!! they are not, oh boo-hoo on their trying to get a better life, so are millions of Americans that these illegals are taking from!!! they are criminals and deserve nothing but to be deported or jailed or worse!!! no amnesty for illegal criminals, call or write your congressmen today and tell them " no on immigration bill" illegals go home!!!
I live in front of four illegal alien families. Since I have lived here, they have destroyed my property, been arrested numerous times for drugs and drinking, had huge parties and had the cops called in the past, more than twentyfive times. They used to throw their clothing on the railings, and have urinated on the property.I as a Christian,..or at least trying to be one, endured their hateful wrath and admited hatred for Americans for years...because we live right across the street from my husbands work, and moving for us was not an option. We felt that the ILLEGALS should move out..they were the ones destroying the property, doing drugs, and dealing drugs,...getting illegal welfare and sending that back to Mexico..believe me,..I have done NOTHING illegal..because I try to do what God wants me too...So the 'innocent' illegals that you talk about, what a joke.
Unlawful Entry is a CRIME. Zero tolerance for immigration-law violators! No amnesty, no "stealth-amnesty." No "change of status," marriage fraud, "exceptional leave to remain," no "Temporary Protected Status." If you break the law, depart or be deported. Illegal aliens kill more US citizens each year than the war in Iraq has killed in four years. Apologists for illegal immigration like to paint it as a victimless crime. But in fact, illegal immigration causes substantial harm to American citizens and legal immigrants, particularly those in the most vulnerable sectors of our population--the poor, minorities, and children. Additionally, job competition by waves of illegal immigrants willing to work at substandard wages and working conditions depresses the wages of American workers, hitting hardest at minority workers and those without high school degrees. Illegal immigration also contributes to the dramatic population growth overwhelming communities across America--crowding school classrooms, consuming already limited affordable housing, and straining precious natural resources like water, energy, and forestland. Taxpayers are being forced to pay for the free health care, education, and other welfare programs being given to illegal aliens; Those tax dollars could be given back to U.S. taxpayers or used to keep our borders secure; They may be here illegally, but they sure know how to "work the system" to collect "free" medical care, "free" education, "free" food, Section 8 housing vouchers and other housing assistance, and hundreds of other social services. It costs citizens additional hundreds of billions of tax dollars at every level: local, state, and federal. It gobbles up billions of our charitable contributions. And much of that money ends up siphoned out of our economy and into offshore accounts. Illegal aliens, over half of whom work "under the table" with neither job nor income reported (nor taxed), are not counted as employed or unemployed. But some of those day-labor and off-the-books "job-lets" would be "real" jobs - available to American citizen job-seekers - if employment regulations were enforced. Illegal aliens can get away with tax evasion, et al., which citizens cannot. In short, we have too many workforce entrants and too few jobs created. The ratio works out to roughly 7-10 workforce entrants per job created. If all illegal aliens depart or are deported, all legal immigration halted, and all temporary employment visas abolished, we still have a problem with more US-born workforce entrants than new jobs created. Illegal immigration damages our country and our citizens every day at every level. And not even the attacks of 2/26 and 9/11 have awakened many Americans to the vast dangers illegal immigration poses to our selves, our families, our communities, our society, our values, our principles, our civilization. Zero Tolerance for Immigration-Law Violators! We must remember the lessons of 2/26, 9/11, and the costs we bear every single day. God Bless the U S A !
crossing the border illegally is a crime. if i speed in trafic i pay for that, i get a ticket. if i kill someone i go to prison,if i decide to j-walk and a policeman decide to give me a ticket i have to pay for it, if i decide not to go to court for my tickets and not pay them i get arrested on a warrant.
what are the illegals paying for their crimes? nothing.
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