What's so bad about 16 million illegal immigrants becoming tax-paying citizens of America?
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first of all ,let's start with the employer's.they getting hired somehow.
another the employer's take social security,and federal ,and medical out .
so in many way's they are paying ,which they cant never collect.
so the question here is ,who's the crook's ?
the employee just wants to feed their family's ,and provide better lives.
let's quit attacking the Innocent ,and go after the big dog's ,many women are having the baby's at home ,scared to be deported ,and guess what ? the baby is very much a citizen .
let's not be so judgmental,if you not 100% indian ,you dont belong either.
america was build by immigrant's,and ye's that time they where also illegal.
the economy have to do ,who you voted for President ,quit using the illegal's as a scape Goat.
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what part of "ILLEGAL" do you not understand?
Why would they want to be citizens? They would have to pay taxes. They won't register.
Weren't they required to follow some rules before? These illegals don't seem to be to dependable when it comes to rules, past or future.
Your add-on makes a point. No problem with anyone from anyplace who is here legally, working, paying taxes, and being responsible. The U.S. welfare citizens are a different problem unrelated to immigration.
yeahlets ,make alll this world tax paying American citizens,,i love all them *** olles
Duh, the labor wuldnt be cheap no more!
You don't look into things very well do you...they don't pay taxes or get social security numbers.
Yeah, and look how well 'LEGALITY' has worked in our favor up to now. As it stands...they CAN apply for greencards, and legal citizenship. Do they do it? They would only continue to do things illegally. You can 'require' them all day. It won't change anything.
Do we really want all our new citizens to become citizens because they are law breakers?
because it's rewarding criminal behavior, and is a slap in the face to people who came here legally and those who couldn't get in
yes it would be good in a lot of ways. I think the main concern is the working class of our nation losing jobs to those willing to work for less, and it may not turn out to be that bad, more people adding to the economy should inevitably produce more jobs.
What part of "illegal" are you confused about?
This voting block are a bunch of sick socialist dicks.why would we want them to vote legally?
No. They will make so little income that they will qualify for tax credits. That's going to cost tons.
lets see... 16 mill X 7 or so kids per person in 6 yrs... thats alot of welfare
i have no opinion,this isn't my world to say.
do you really think all 16 mil will obtain a social? i mean they came here illegally in the first place. furthermore do you really think any government organization can process 16 million people? of course not, to both questions. there ARE legal ways to come here. and there ARE people who come legally. but for those who came illegally, why would you expect them to suddenly follow the rules??????
edit** and so now we can see congress no longer represents us! the republic is over
i do not know.but i would like to no the anwer too.
Absolutely nothing. Not to mention that many of them already pay taxes & if the US didn't have them working in the US, China & India would have ran over the US econmy like a Mack truck. As illegal as many immigrants are they are now a vital part of the US economy & if the US lost them the national debt would be 100x worse than it already is.
they are not doing that now!! what makes you think they will do it once they are granted amnesty by the bleeding hearts?
Do you mean besides the fact that they are ILLEGAL and therefore started their time in the country as criminals? Or the fact that there are thousands of people waiting "in line" to come here legally and these people will be rewarded for jumping in line -- we scowl at people who do this in the movie line, but we're thinking about letting them get away with it for this? What does this say to the people who are patiently waiting? What kind of message does THAT send?? Wouldn't this actually create a lot more problems then it could ever possibly solve?
Yeah.., they are all just going to come meekly and apply for their social security number and then just start paying taxes... Ha Good one. Out of that 16 million we will be lucky if 2 million become registered or ever pay taxes.
However that little card will sure come in handy when they want to collect benefits that yo and I slave to contribute to.
I think it is bad because they are trying to change our ENGLISH language!! and they come here and take jobs that someone else who is suppose to live here's job!! They also are putting the gang level up to a high!! they come here and put there kid in a school so they can drop out and just like there parents!! some (most) are ANIMALS!! I feel very stongly on this subject! I am sorry if I affended any one but the truth HURTS!! = )
When America isn't accepting, then it truly isn't free.
Well you do have a valid point that it will bring many people out of the woodwork, but there are two problems A this is no gaurantee, because many who do work work under the table on a cash only basis and sad to say regardless of legal status this will probably continue. It is like hiring your next door neighbors son to cut your lawn. He is a citizen yet you pay him under the table and no taxes get taken out. Really what this solves is idenity theft. Many illegals do pay taxes because they use false SSN to work in the USA and end up getting payroll and other taxes taken out. As for a boost to our economy I really do not think it will. Mainly because before illegals contributed about 3 percent annually to our federal deficit. This will probably be brought down to 1 or 2 percent but we will not profit from it. But like McCain said in the Debate continuing to do nothing about illegals here is a defacto amnesty and we need to do something to bring these people out of the shadows. Nothing good ever happens when you work in the shadows.
Overpopulation(16 million people staying in America) taxes all our resources, natural or otherwise.
Thats going to tell the other 16million(i don't know the real number but i imagine its alot)people waiting in line doing it the right way "screw you!" and also, do you think all the other people in mexico are going to know its only amnesty for the people in already,the rate of illegal border crossings will go through the roof! not to mention each one of theses 16million will be ble to bring family members over,so we're talking close to 50million, not all these illegal are able bodied there will be a fare share applying for social security benifits and probably getting them, thats not much of a tax relif at all i'd say. well basically my opinion is too bad soo sad, it amnesty didn't work the first time we gave it to illegal mexican workers.
Won't it be rewarding the criminals for their behavior?
You assume that all of the illegal immigrants are going to pay their "fines" and then become card carrying members of our nation. WRONG! They are just going to continue living the way they are because they can! What is going to happen to them if they don't "get on board"? How are you going to find someone that is undocumented? YOU'RE NOT!!
There are millions upon millions that do it the legal way each and every year. Why should someone that did it illegally get to jump ahead of all those doing things legally? How is that fair?
And we have been doing fine thus far with our national expenses without the payment of the illegal immigrant's taxes. What makes you think that they are going to make that much of a difference? If anything, what is going to happen is once they become legal citizens, a majority of them will be out of work due to the LAW that states they have to be paid minimum wage for their work, and that they can't be worked against the federal labor laws (you know, getting paid for overtime, having to be offered benefits, etc). They suddenly become not such a hot commodity. So what are we going to do with our millions of newly unemployed? Are they going to become a part of our welfare system? So much for it benefiting us financially.
Yes and no. The majority of our illegal immigrants are not well educated and end up in low paying labor jobs. A person who works for small wages and still is responsible for supporting a family will get many tax breaks. E.G. If you make $6 an hour with no health benefits and have a family of four (2 adults and 2 children) how will you support those 3 people(healthcare, education, etc.) ? Government aid would be required. If illegal immigrants became legal citizens and started using services the same way the legal taxpayer of the same educational level did, it would actually cause a deficit.
Wrong on all accounts. Low wage people in the US don't pay enough taxes to support the U.S. Welfare State, and any money they save goes to Mexico where it is worth far more to their extended families. The crooked government of Mexico is essentially selling cheap labor as a foreign export, to keep the government there from collapsing.
I'd prefer it to collapse and be replaced by a free economy of the people, by the people, and for the people.
Instead, the US economy will be by the US citizens, for the invading nation, and eventually controlled by that invading nation.
Forget Social Security. It's a Socialist Ponzi scheme. Don't count on it showing up for anybody born after 1960, regardless of how many slaves are imported. It's the biggest boondoggle in human history.
I came to the US as a legal immigrant and consider myself fortunate to have an opportunity to work towards my American dream. I am a pro immigrant, however this policy is a poor compromise approach and its completely unfair to all the Legal immigrants. How can you compromise a simple law --- it's "ILLEGAL" immigrants for pete sake!!
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