Why are pro-amnesty people more compassionate towards illegals than they are towards their own countrymen?
Is that what our country has become? Only the college educated need apply? Only the college educated matter?
And before you start your rants...YES I have gone to college. But, there ARE people in our country who, for whatever reason, cannot. (Not everyone is mentally, socially, or physically capable)
But, I guess those people can kiss off...we have illegals to worry about.
Sad.
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cincy and rachel, the things you said couldn't have hit home harder. I went to college a semester on a scholarship(I had a perfect average) but in the middle of it I had to take time off to care for my grandmother. After she got better, I went back on a loan. She became ill again and once more, I had to stop going which effected my ability to get a loan or any kind of financial help later. I am now in a spot where I can't afford to go, I have a little boy to care for and he is chronically ill so all the money goes to survival,i'm a single mother. I'm very intelligent,always got good grades and would love to go back to college but I can't. Ofcourse every illegal in the country will get all sorts of grants and oppurtunities but I will only get poorer.
We need to care for our citizens and provide them with grants and opportunities. There is no compassion for the working poor citizens here.
College isn't the only way to make a good living.
The only thing I have ever agreed with Hillary Clinton on is America's over-emphasis on college education and under-emphasis on technical and trade schools.
So what you are essentially saying is that there is not equal opportunity in America for all of its citizenry?
You are absolutely correct in that assertion. Shouldn't we then be focusing on providing equal access to education and have a higher education system that relies on grants rather than loans.
Let's make an America all of its people can enjoy. That means equal access to education, health care, and quality housing.
Edit: That is exactly what I am saying, is that if you are to have compassion for your own citizenry you need to provide them with what they need in order to succeed. The immigration point would then be moot as we would know that all Americans would be well ahead of citizens coming from 3rd world nations who have a sharp lack in literacy.
And DAR, I am a school teacher, believe me I understand that argument, the K-12 system is in horrible disrepair.
Big business is as a cover to their slave labor plans, then they can say opponents to swamping the country in cheap labor regardless of the limits of our schools and services are hard hearted. When McCain walked away from the 'compromise' with Kennedy it was because Kennedy wanted new 'guest workers' not to be paid less than American workers, so they couldn't be used as easily to undercut American pay scales. Legalization was NOT what had him in the room.
Rachel G, while I agree with your reforms for citizens, they will take a generation to hit the schools. My kids are there now, and I don't consider their education years 'expendable in the great debate.'
I know you may think I have a dark cloud hanging over me, but I have tell you, I really don't see Americans, any Americans as compassionate or caring.
and yes, this society is getting to the point where it is only college grads need apply. It's sad, because most of the kids going into college, really don't belong in college. Colleges are mostly just a money grab, or a place for love and time challenged parents to send their kids.
Because they have allowed corporate interest, Bush, and the liberal media to twist and corrupt their minds.
Maybe they are only calling the POS to the ones who are truly ignorant.
College or no college come on, not everyone uses their brain.
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Our 'leaders' are more fake-compassionate toward illegals because they were elected by wealthy corporate executives and shareholders, and are doing their bidding: cheap labor / no benefits.
The U.S. taxpayer pays the costs that the employers should be paying in benefits. This is a massive transfer of wealth from taxpayers to the wealthy. We need:
TAXPAYER-FUNDED CAMPAIGN FINANCING--it costs far less than the legislation that gives away our forests, wide-open spaces, groundwater, WILDLIFE (including songbirds), and everything else that is destroyed with overpopulation. And that's just the beginning. Trillions in tax dollars are given away with legislation to pay back campaign contributions.
GO HOME, ILLEGAL ALIENS, AND FIGHT FOR YOUR OWN COUNTRY.
STOP TAKING OUR JOBS / MONEY / COUNTRY, BECOMING A HATED GROUP OF 'UNDESIRABLES' IN ANOTHER'S LAND.
STOP BEING COWARDS--FIGHT FOR YOUR OWN COUNTRY INSTEAD OF TAKING THE EASY WAY OUT. Go back by the tens of millions and DEMONSTRATE!...IN YOUR OWN STREETS!!
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I don't believe I am and I am not sure how you think you know that since you don't know any of us. As I have said before I was a volunteer at a women's shelter/soup kitchen for seven years, I donated my services doing income tax returns for low income, have volunteered to paint over graffiti, participated in coat and blanket drives... where are you getting your information from? I never said anyone with a college education was a POS, I did say that a lot of poverty is a result of poor choices in regards to education and lifestyles.
Well I do show compassion to my fellow countrymen.I am a child advocate and volunteer with an organization who helps place abused children in a safe home.What do you contribute to your community to make it a better place?? For me it is about human rights...
I have compassion for both. Illegals and my fellow citizens. I recognize that many illegals have committed heinous crimes aside from merely crossing the border illegally(which is only a misdemeanor), but I also know that our fellow citizens commit just as much crime. I'm compassionate toward our citizens that look at the illegal immigration situation logically and without bigotry, hate, and racism. No, it isn't racist to be against illegal immigration but I have read many comments from people that illegals need to be shot, comments regarding all illegals as Paco, and comments about how they only eat tacos...That is racist..and those american citizens that make those comments get no compassion from me whatsoever. Just like those illegals that bash americans get no compassion from me as well. But there are plenty of good people illegal and legal and for them I will always have tons of compassion...and I don't care what anyone says an illegal may technically be a "criminal" in the eyes of many americans but aside from that one little act of crossing the border, many of them are otherwide upstanding citizens that only want what is best for their families.
Many Americans are humanitarian and see the plight of the illegal immigrant as a worthy issue. What they fail to see is that we have poverty in our country which goes unnoticed, lack of education, children who fall between the cracks, entire states that live below the poverty level, states that have MASSIVE unemployment.
It is much easier to see the plight of another nation than to fix the failings of your own country.
Take a trip to some of the less fortunate states in the US, who knows maybe we will start fixing our OWN problems.
Because the people maybe these people understand where these other people are coming from.
First, while I commend those with collage degrees, I am also aware of the fact that a degree is only a piece of paper, and it does not make you smarter or better than one without a degree. Some of our countries brightest and successfully men and women have no degrees. Now back to the issue of the some who are pro-amnesty, there are many reasons why some feel this way. One could be that they are of a Hispanics background or other minority and that's feels they need to champion the rights of their fellow ethic countrymen, or they could be just a limousine liberal that likes to feel like they are doing something useful and have choose the illegal, as their cause. If this amnesty is passed, and I hope it is not, I would like to see their faces when they get the bill
PS> I do not have a college degree, and wanted one very badly, but because of my inability to spell and proper word usage, it was never an option. Things are changed in the last 20 years or so, but it was to late for me to achieve my desire for degree. If it were not for spell check, my posting would be almost unreadable.
That's not to say that from time to time I mess up big time.
It's true that we should do more for education. There are 3rd world countries that have a lot better education program then the U.S. And theirs also covers College. But compassion will not fix the problem of education. But when you have a small family not only paying more than $5,000 a person and risking their whole families life to come to this country, just so they can make a better life for their kids. Is compassion needed?
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