When will people stop using Native Americans to defend their immigration stance.?
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totally agree. And they always call people who are against illegal aliens "racist." It's people like Antis that are racist. Just look at his responses. Even in this question, he called people "whiteys." If you libs want to support criminal activity, that's your choice. "Illegal" means "against the law." Idiots. And they always have to say "we're all immigrants." What a B.S. excuse. Immigrants of past generations did so legally; with sponsors, through Ellis Island, or whatever. They didn't sneak in ILLEGALY!!! There is a big difference. You libs are amazing. This country is turning into a sewer, and you're fine with it just as long as we are all treated fairly, legal citizens or not. You libs make me want to puke.
i agree
Not only that, but the tribes engaged in thousands of years of constant inter-tribal wars that only stopped with European settlement.
So what? They were still here before you whiteys.
Plus, people like the Mexicas took slaves, sacrifieced untold numbers of people on their bloody altars. If their society had been all that, they would have withstood the Spanish onslaught.
Actually, not all of that history is complete. There were other tribes here in North America that probably DID NOT walk across the Bering Straits, but may actually have either
1) Come here by other means far earlier, and / or
2) May have actually naturally evolved here, or in South America and migrated upwards thousands of years before the Bering Strait walk.
Of course it's bulls***, just like all the other mindless talking points they get from their touch-feely heros in the democrat party. When there is no logical defense to back them up, you can expect to continue hearing the same old lame, weak minded arguments over and over so that they can persuade their other weak-minded friends. I'm disgusted by the white hating and guilty white liberal s.h.i.t. I keep hearing.
Wake up, mall zombies.. EVERY country on Earth is a "nation of immigrants" except maybe somewhere in the middle east, where God created Man.
jeeze - I bet you're one big ball of fun, aren't you?
Whenever they actually study history.
Small detail, when they got here there was no people. crossing the Bering Strait was not a walk in the park, there were glaciers to cross, wildlife to contend with, sabertooth cats, which were not your typical tabby. So the point is, that since they got here first, they actually had the right to own this land. We, as white people descendants, took that away from them. I agree, there were no inmigration laws back then, no unified government to stop the influx of whites into their lands, but at some point they tried to stop the invansion of their lands and what did they got? The U. S. Army hunting them down and killing them and finally sending them to reservations, far away from their ancestral lands and forcing them into a second class citizenship status for the longest time, forcing them to lose their culture by not allowing them to speak their native language and follow their own traditions. So, in a nutshell, we lucked out that at point in time there was no unified government in what it became the U.S. to stop the inmigration of white settlers into Native American lands. That is the point, in case you do not understand it and from your explanation, you probably will not understand it.
duh, but they were the first REAL Americans and then Europeans came and kicked them off their land... that is way different than the immigration issues that are going on today...
the bearing straight wasn't covered by land, it was covered by ice... land doesn't disintegrate, ice melts
indeed, the native americans were here for thousands of years, dealing with their situation, and amazingly, did not harm the environment... one single bit.
compare that with the europeans, who brought diseases, violence, hatred, racism... and are on track in ruining the environment in less than 250 years.
Thanks a lot!
When native Americans arrived, there was no one here saying "go away".
Europeans migrated to an already-inhabited land.
And I think the point is about hypocrisy. How can the sons and daughters of immigrants in a nation founded by immigrants vilify immigrants for being immigrants?
As a Tigua Indian, I am First People of America.
You argue that we were immigrants also, my people came during the last ice-age, approximately 20,000 - 30,000 years ago through a land-bridge across the Bering Sound, from northeastern Siberia into Alaska.
The oldest documented Indian cultures in North America are Sandia (15000 BC), Clovis (12000 BC) and Folsom (8000 BC).
So were we here not long enough for all of you?
Europeans started to arrive in the 16th- and 17th century.
Honestly we were here way before you guys.
The Mexicans were here. The invading Euros pushed them down to what is now Mexico. This all means nothing you all could go on forever arguing. This world is defined by man and what he has conquered and laid claim to. In reality no one is American or European for that matter. we are human and need to get around this debate.
John Lennon said it best.
That and the fact that we all have immigrant ancestors. They always leave out the ILLEGAL part of the argument!
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LOL,,, thanks for the points!!!
Regardless of my position on immigration, how would I use Native Americans to defend it?
BTW, My positions are:
1.) Fine or jail the employers
2.) Provide a free bus to the border, with a free bag of food and pesos waiting for any illegals that volunteer to return.
3.) Do not refuse welfare and/or medical assistance, but establish a priority system that services endangered citizens first.
4.) If we must have "OUTSOURCING", limit it to Mexico and Canada. If "illegals" can stay in their country and do our jobs, they won't be illegal.
When they realize that America is no longer the 'new world.' However you analyze history - there is no comparison to immigration today. This isn't the 15th century!
I agree. It's a weak defense.
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