As for immigration, why don't we find a way to get rid of the criminals but let the reasonable people stay?
Unfortunately they'll probably spend months thinking of a simple solution that considers all immigrants the same. This all-or-nothing thinking is why there's a lack of wisdom in our legal system today.
Those who say illegal immigrants don't pay taxes have forgotten about sales tax, gasoline tax, tobacco tax, etc.
Those who point at immigrants for all the problems are really narrow. Point at "outsourcing" for a while. Big corps screw us more than immigrants.
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Good Point. If only we could get enough voices behind this idea to make it a workable solution.
Then we can let as many people in legally as are really needed and not what some arbitrary quota says. That way we can screen everyone.
Too bad the extremists on both sides are winning.
I'd be willing to trade the mexicans who want to work for the worthless americans who only want to sit on their asses and collect welfare.
they are all criminals if there illegal and they all need to go back home and be put at the back of list on people wanting to come here.
Your attitude toward this is why we're in this mess in the first place. We have laws so that any one issue can't be made into a question, so that it makes the problem escalate to a unmanagable level.
They are all criminals according to our law regardless of how "reasonable" they are, therefore they all must go. I don't get a pass for a speeding ticket because I'm reasonable.
I would say that if they are illegal then they are criminals. They aren't paying taxes(tax evasion), they are here under false pretenses(fraud), they probably came over with more than one person(conspiracy).
Any one of those would put me in jail for a long time, sound criminal to me.
Twelve Americans are murdered every day by illegals. Another 13 are killed by drunk driving illegals with no insurance or drivers license.
The only way to separate the large number of scum from the good people is to secure the border.
Build the fence now.
EVERY illegal alien is a criminal. So OK let's get rid of ALL of them!
Everyone who has entered the country illegally has committed a felony - making them all criminals.
When my grandparents came here they had to apply ahead of time, get a sponsor, have a job, pay a fee, be on probation, and they were watched over.
The illegals bypass all of that - my grandparents always spoke english, I know a mexican who has been here 40 years and does not now a word of english
There is one man who has a simple solution.
See the "Ten Simple, Direct Steps to a Legal American Immigration System" at the Boortz blog.
I say "Bravo". This is a great idea. Close the borders. Get rid of the criminals (ie. those who have committed felonies) and make the illegals here legal so we can track them just like we do every other American Citizen.
What part of criminal illegal invasion don't you understand?
its easy to lump them all into one category, out of the gate, their all illegal..being a crook or not is a sub-category....
If they snuck in they broke the law and should be sent back. they are all criminals here.
Each and every one of them broke too many laws to list in getting here and staying here.
Every illegal you see working is putting an Americans out of work.
Should we let the rest of the criminals that DID have to pay the price for breaking the law loose? After all most of the criminals I've read about were "looking for a better life"
By the way Americans stopped this illegal immigration bill in it's tracks twice now.
We do not need reform just enforcement.
Zee HatMan hit the nail on the head with his link to Boortz! (Thanks for that! LOVE IT!!)
The article he cited includes a BRILLIANT and very sensible plan to fix the illegal immigration problem developed by Newt Gingrich. Please read in full, it is WELL worth the time!!
Ten Simple, Direct Steps to a Legal American Immigration System
Keep the 1986 Simpson-Mazzoli commitment and control the border. In The Reagan Diaries (HarperCollins, May 22, 2007), President Ronald Reagan wrote that he was going to sign the Simpson-Mazzoli bill because "it's high time we regained control of our borders and [this] bill will do this." For national security reasons, it is vital we regain control of our border. Congress should pass a narrowly written emergency border bill to finish the necessary fence in less than a year and to have complete border control within two years.
Announce an immediate shift of Internal Revenue Service resources to audit companies that are deliberately hiring people illegally. We do not have to focus on deporting those who want to work. We need to focus on the Americans who are getting richer by deliberately breaking our laws, hiring people illegally and failing to pay taxes. These people are cheating their own country. We should focus on fining and making it economically impractical for Americans to deliberately encourage law breaking. Economic penalties for knowingly hiring someone who is illegal should rise dramatically with each employer (including subcontractors) conviction, making it simply too expensive to cheat. This will eliminate the magnet of illegal jobs, will begin to diminish the flow of new illegal workers and will lead some illegal workers to return home voluntarily.
Outsource to American Express, Visa or MasterCard the job of building a real-time verification system so that honest companies can confirm the legal status of all workers and identify people with forged papers before they hire them as fast as your automatic teller machine identifies you and gives you money in a matter of seconds. We must distinguish between companies that deliberately hire illegal workers and companies that hire people who they believe are legal. It is the government's duty to help this second group of companies by providing a real-time verification system for identifying the legal status of all workers so that it is possible to screen out those with illegal documents. The government should outsource the creation of this system so that it is easy, fast and accurate.
Focus deportation efforts on criminals. Those who claim that opponents of the Bush-Kennedy-McCain bill support mass deportations are simply wrong. We want a system in which honest work is available for law-abiding workers and in which the natural attrition of declining job availability will reduce illegal behavior. However, there is one group that should be deported immediately, and the law should be modified to make it easy to do so. Criminals have no future in America. In every major city and increasingly in small cities and even small towns, gangs have become a problem and people feel a rising sense of insecurity. There are at least 30,000 illegal gang members now in the United States. The system should focus on deporting criminals so that people who are here illegally understand that breaking the law will get them deported immediately.
Cut off all federal aid to any city, county or state that refuses to investigate if a criminal is here illegally. These so-called "sanctuary cities" are in effect abetting the violation of American law and increasing the risk to honest, law-abiding Americans. They should be cut off from all federal aid if they refuse to help enforce federal law.
Offer intensive education in English to anyone who wants to learn English, and make English the official language of government. This will begin to reassert the commitment to assimilation and Americanization that has historically been part of legal immigration to America.
Ensure that becoming an American citizen requires passing a test on American history in English and giving up the right to vote in any other country.
Within the context of these proven changes, establish an economically driven temporary worker program like the Krieble Foundation proposals. Any temporary worker would have to pass a background check to ensure they are not a criminal, would have to give biometric information (retinal scan and thumbprint) for a special card that would be outsourced to American Express, MasterCard or Visa so it would be harder to defraud and counterfeit, and would have to sign a contract committing them to pay taxes and obey the law or be removed from the United States within two weeks without recourse to long court processes.
Create a special open-ended worker visa for high value workers who bring specialized education, entrepreneurial talent or capital that will grow the American economy and make America a more prosperous country.
Workers who came here illegally but have a good work relationship and community ties (including family), should have first opportunity to get the new temporary worker visas, but instead of paying penalties, they should be required to go home and get the visa at home. This way they are beginning their new career in America by obeying the law. It is amazing that those who advocate a large fine and the new Z visa, which would be administered in a hopelessly expedited manner, suggest that going home to get a new legal admission to the U.S. is somehow too complicated. If people can break the law by entering the county illegally, they should be able to obey the law and enter America legally.
These 10 steps would lead to a controlled border, a profound revitalization of the core values of American civilization, a renewed respect for the law and an economically driven system of legal temporary workers in an orderly and controllable manner.
This program would work vastly better than the dishonest and hopelessly complex Bush-Kennedy-McCain proposal now being pushed so hard by the establishment against the wishes of most Americans.
Newt Gingrich, June 18, 2007
(c) 2007 Eagle Publishing Company
Sneaking into the U.S. is a federal offense. All 'illegals' are just that: criminals.
I agree with you on this.And there is a way to do it.I'm a U S citizen with one speeding ticket in my whole life.Probably just lucky.But other than that I have no other offenses.I would say if any illegal has a felony they should be deported.Over 3 misdemeaners they should be deported because they are now habitual in my eyes.Kind of like the 3 strikes you're out law.
AS far as I'm concerned if you are in the US illegally you are a criminal SO we should ship you back
Immigration does not seem to be under control , so I think the government are unable to do this at least in the UK, it is open borders and anyone who complains is a called racist
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