How have we come to the conclusion that Americans will not do Labor?
I am a professional but many of my friends, family and townspeople are laborers. Most of the people I know probably fit into the definition of laborer. They are hard working, dependable people who have bought homes, raised kids, paid taxes and lived the American dream.
Where did the perception that Americans will not do labor jobs come from? I know factory workers, farmers, construction workers, and others who are Americans. Is that phenomonom only in my state?
Answer:
Simple.
You go to an illegal and say: "Hey, would you like to do some labor for me - the pay is below minimum wage, there are no benefits, there's a small chance you'll die, and even if you survive, you'll likely have permanent health problems - sound OK?"
Then try the same pitch with an American.
Repeat that several times and you'll come to the conclusion that Americans don't want to do the job you have to offer.
Apparently too many are turning republican, so the liberals need a new source of government slaves who will sell their vote for services. Amnesty will give this.
That's hog wash that corporations are selling to get their slave labor.
I know plenty of "American" laborers as well. It's not that Americans don't want Labor job, it's that corporate America doesn't want to pay Americans to do those jobs. They would rather pay illegal immigrants dirt poor wages.
I don't think hard working Americans have come to that conclusion, its just what illegal aliens keep saying. I've done some of lousy jobs in my life, that's for sure.
this phenomenon is all over. they will say anything to justify being illegal. bush says it because he IS to lazy to work.
It is a liberal spin on an emotional issue.
I believe people have belief because immigrants work for so little, and not many Americans (rightfully so) won't work for that little pay. SO employers hire cheap labor/immigrants.
The question too should be addressed too those who are currently collecting benefits of unemployment,welfare and so on. Whether or not they are or will be available to begin working the hot fields,and other buttom of the line thankless jobs.
Gee, its funny you mention that because many farmers in the south are facing labor shortage as we speak.This new anti immigration sentiment has sent many migrant workers fleeing..I guess we just have to wait to see where all these workers are you speak up, are hiding? Any idea?
I have much construction experience, and I know for a fact that it is very difficult to find dependable Americans who will work as carpenters, masons, or roofers.
I know that Mexicans were paid between $9 and $20 per hour for these jobs.
Edit: And these idiots claiming that its "Corporate America" hiring these guys are ignorant. I don't have the statistics, but using statistical inference from my personal sample size would indicate that ALL undocumented workers work for small businesses.
Edit 2: Gotta love the thumbs down from a few idiots who have probably never picked up a hammer, and have obviously never worked in the construction field.
it's not that they dont want to work, they just cant support there family for the low wage they pay illegals.
Good question especially since I just quit my corporate high paying job and went back into a labor job. Seems that I like to work hard, outside, doing a job that everyone says only the illegal immigrants will do.
What you are hearing about Americans not wanting to do labor is a Corporate talk point lie.The truth is that Americans will do all,and any job.Illegal workers are working for less money,no benefits, and they can't complain,they are replaceable,if one gets hurt, another steps in.This is a crisis for American workers, how can they work for less, you know how much it cost to be an American,pay taxes,health care,housing,maintaining a Car with Insurance.No,it's a lie,Americans do work labor jobs,all over this Country,but where Illegal workers gather,Americans can not compete.
If Americans are "above" doing manual labor, how come 600 U.S. citizens took the jobs at the Swift meat packing plants that were left vacant after the immigration raids?
They obviously didn't feel the work was beneath them!
Illegals take away jobs from American union workers and skilled tradesmen. And it makes those working environments that much more dangerous because they lack the education and skills for those jobs. Of course the corporations LOVE it, as their profit margin increases since they don't have to pay out anything more than minimum wage for a job that normally demands $15 an hour.
I've done my share of less than desirable jobs to get me through 2 years of being unemployed. But at least I was paid a fair day's wage for it.
No, you're right however...the labor the illegal Mexicans are claimed to be doing are BELOW minimum wage and not taxed. The laborers such as construction workers get paid much better, depending on skill levels.
Americans would rather sit home and collect WELFARE than work low paying jobs, especially difficult ones. USA pays people NOT to work the menial jobs. The system is screwed up. There is a mindset whereby some people think WHY WORK WHEN WE CAN GET PAID FOR FREE.
The bulk of America's poor are high school dropouts who chose NOT to be educated and make no attempt in improving their lives until they've had a few kids and get cut off Welfare rolls.
Americans do not wish to do farm labor or manufacturing labor for less than what they should be being paid for those kinds of jobs.
The government found that they could write, and pass a bill enabling them to fire American workers and replace them with low-wage, unskilled workers and make a profit, as well as helping out the farmer and their profits.
All farmers are given a government supplement in money to plant or not plant certain types of crops. So they get paid for doing that. Or they simply do what my uncle always did - which was take the money to plant the crop, get the crop ready to harvest, and when 1 combine broke down , the rest sat on the side-line while the crops rotted. Then he took a profit loss on the crops and got paid again. When he told me how he worked the system, and he only needed to pay back $50,000 - his crops were worth $90,000. I asked him why he didn't just harvest the crops and come out ahead with $40,000. He never really answered me on the subject, but I told him I thought he was a stupid business man for passing up that kind of money.
So this is a fable dreamed up by some employers, and the government. Just like illegals babies born here are American citizens which they are not, and never have been.
Also do an internet search on the "Bracero". The American government hired them from out of Mexico during WWII to cover jobs that American military couldn't do because they were off fighting the war. Imagine when America gets back her fighting men and women, and they themselves are unable to do work or function like they once had been able to to do the work, or can no longer do the work.
I have been a laborer in the past. I've held two or three jobs at a time. Currently I work in an office doing anything they need me to do. I handle shipping/receiving, maintenance, painting, carpet cleaning, cubicle building, etc. NOBODY can tell me Americans won't do these jobs.
Thats just a stupid way for the Mexicans to say that Americans need them here to do the dirty work!
Americans do labor jobs everyday, my personal belief is that some political fat cat came up with this slogan at some point to justify letting millions of illegal workers into jobs other than picking fruit. I will go along with the argument that most Americans do not want to pick fruit and that is what a carefully crafted worker program is for. As for the rest of the labor jobs as far as I am concerned, every time an illegal takes a position he is taking it from a citizen.
First, here in NC I have not seen the problem. I help manage several sole proprietor owned construction companies. Every day I here from them " who applied for the job I posted"
I show them the apps and they hand them back to me. I even had one guy hand write a letter sort of begging for the position and would gladly start at $8 and hour. Lost job in one of the Cotton Mill jobs here that went to foreign countries all over the world. "Thanks NAFTA!"
At his mill job he was making $18 an hour. I thought he was a good prospect, had loads of experience. Called him and asked him to come in for an interview and boss hired him. By the way he was a Caucasin male 35. Supposed to start Monday. Called him to ask where he was and said he had been at hospital with wife / false labor / told him to come in tomorrow with docs statement. He didn't show. He called Wednesday and asked if boss could pick him up. Told him no he would have to find his own way in. Thurs. did not show. I beleive I have gone through 50 aps in 2 months with the same things or they quit after 2 wks. All the Hispanics that have applied showed up the next day ready to work. I even have one guy that acutually gets up at 4 am to walk to the office and is there by 6:30am to catch a ride to the job site and then walks home! All can speak english except one . I have only had one of them lay out and never come back in the last year. Now, you tell me why even individually owned businesses would rather hire immigrants? The few of us who have a good work ethic is a dying breed and I congratulate you all for doing so! Especially those of you under the age of 30! That is how America was made, by hard working people!
I wish some of you men that have the good work ethic lived here. I could really use some go getters for these guys.
OK so you say you now people, yet you say your professional.so now ask yourself would I do the Labor?
its not about weather you now or not, its about how many of you actually do it.
heck I'm American, but my parents are Mexican and i can tell you that as for myself, no i would not go out in do the out side labor they do, and neither would you.
why ?.because its under payed. duh!
It is nothing more than propaganda from the industrial farm, construction company etc. owners to create a slave state. And mark my words the middle class will go down along with the poor.
Its a false conclusion lead by the media to get America to buy in to the story that if the 12m. were sent back that America would not be able to survive. Amnesty rewards an illegal act by individuals who are undercutting the American way of life, they pay no taxes, receive no health care benefits from their employers which make them an avenue for increased profits. Anyway how needs a middle class, Ive visited many third world countries without us.
I used to work in the fast food industry - not labor, but still a crappy job - and during the time that I was in the management position, and put up now hiring signs, etc. etc. who came out? I can tell you that for every 10 people that showed up, there was no more than 1 that was non hispanic. As for well they were hired because they get paid less, in the different rest. that I worked at, it was the spanish cooks that made more money then anyone else in the store. Why? Everyone was brought in making basically the same amount - based on experience - then you got merit based raises. The cooks were there everyday, doing their job and more, meanwhile the american people who work there did nothing more than sit on their butts and do nothing. There were some americans that worked, but many did not.
Yes there are americans that will do labor, and work the crappy jobs, even for the average wage, but there isnt alot that will come out and apply, and like others have had to deal with alot of them wont do the work. The work ethic in this country sucks.
Heres a fact; only 2 (TWO) percent of the illegal aliens from Mexico are actually working picking crops (in pitiful California or Texas, Arizona or New Mexico). 29 (TWENTY NINE) percent are collecting WELFARE and are on FOOD STAMPS as well as FREE MEDICAL care. Just imagine, with that kind of drain on the system, what will be available when YOU need it?
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