If the mexican illegals are such 'good, family people'...?

Then how come everywhere they go in numbers there is complete 'white flight' and dramatic degredation of the towns/cities they inhabit. LA, Fresno, Phoenix, Mesa, El Paso, Las Cruses, etc, etc..... every story is the same....

Hey pro-illegals, name ONE INSTANCE where illegals have made ANYTHING better for anyone...

...even themsleves.....

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Good question!!!! But i bet you're going to get hammered for this one!!!!
I live in Arizona, and i know what you're talking about, though!!!
They have taken over entire neighborhoods in my state!!! Then, the home break-ins start.
And the drive-by shootings.
And the LOUD carnival music!!!
And the drug dealing.
And the 5 dogs coming into YOUR yard to take a dump!!!
And the all night beer partys!!.
And the police being called every 15 minutes!!!
If THIS is "family values", then i'm GLAD i don't have this kind!!!
Since we don't know who is and isn't legal, we can't say no illegal ever made anything better. However, the masses of illegals definitely make things worse. That is why there are limits on how many can come, so our services and schools can continue to function properly.
I think ya p##sed em off with your other ?
ah yes.. i love these questions, because i really hate what the hispanics have done to our country. the problem is,dude, that its all over. its too late to change it, you cant turn back time.so here's your choices; 1) just lay down and accept it. 2)move to new zealand 3)be patient, as global warming intensifies and we are all forced to compete for the same dwindling resources people will start to choose up sides and fight it out.borders wont have any meaning and people will adopt a sense of "us and them". the most obvious differences - race,language etc - wil be the basis for deciding who is us and who is them. it will all eventually work out.
The pro illegals have no proof on any thing they say and if they did i would look into it but still nothing.
Hey pro-legal... give it a break. You need to go to Latin America to see and learn how those people really are. They have buildings in Mexico City that are older than our country. And to see them from your perspective is not seeing them at all. And if you think you are better than them then go out and pick something in the fields and earn a living and complain that you are not getting paid enough and then go to the store and complain about the high price of the food and then...listen to someone complain about you because your at the bottom of the picking order.
2 types of illegal immagrants come over the border.

Hard working= who want a better life for themselves
criminals= who want to get more money in their criminal endeavors.

My biggest problem with these illegals is they are used to and ok with a corrupt govt. Is that what they want here.

But of the hard working illegals. it is their kids that are more into the American culture and believe the liberal line of "minority status".
There are people like this in every race. There are people in every race that help others. that will see someone in need and give a little of what they have. They may not make the news but they do for others.
illegal immigration proponents is that those who enter the U.S. by breaking the law are invariably "hard-working" and "law-abiding" once they get here.
1. That argument, however, has one major flaw. According to Justice Department statistics and the analysis of immigration experts, the "law-abiding" claim often isn't true.
As Investors Business Daily reported in March 2005:
"The U.S. Justice Department estimated that 270,000 illegal immigrants served jail time nationally in 2003. Of those, 108,000 were in California. Some estimates show illegals now make up half of California's prison population, creating a massive criminal subculture that strains state budgets and creates a nightmare for local police forces."
Citing an Urban Institute study, director of research for the Center for Immigration Studies Steven Camorata noted in 2004: "Roughly 17 percent of the prison population at the federal level are illegal aliens. That's a huge number since illegal aliens only account for about 3 percent of the total population."
1. Former California Gov. Pete Wilson places the percentage of illegal aliens in U.S. prisons even higher. In 2001, he told Fox News Channel's Bill O'Reilly:
"We had problems related to the costs of educating children who were acknowledged to be in the country illegally, healthcare costs. One in five in our prison population were illegal immigrants who had been convicted of a felony after entering the country illegally."
The Federation for American Immigration Reform also turned to the Justice Department to get statistics on criminal aliens. They report:
"In March 2000, Congress made public Department of Justice statistics showing that, over the previous five years, the INS had released over 35,000 criminal aliens instead of deporting them. Over 11,000 of those released went on to commit serious crimes, over 1,800 of which were violent ones [including 98 homicides, 142 sexual assaults, and 44 kidnaping].
"In 2001, thanks to a decision by the Supreme Court, the INS was forced to release into our society over 3,000 criminal aliens [who collectively had been convicted of 125 homicides, 387 sex offenses, and 772 assault charges]."
1. Up to a third of the U.S. federal prison population is composed of non-citizens, according to Federal Bureau of Prisons statistics - but not all non-citizen prison inmates are illegal aliens.
As to the "hard-working" claim, CIS notes: "The proportion of immigrant-headed households using at least one major welfare program is 24.5 percent compared to 16.3 percent for native households."
Investor's Business Daily concurs: "Once [illegals] get here, they are 50 percent more likely to be on welfare than citizens."
I agree with you in an areas with high rates of illegal immigration there is a higher precentage of crime rates and white flight is present. It is not just in the cities mentioned above, but in Southeast as well.
As a legal immigrant from former Soviet Union I have no respect for those who choose to come to this country illegally. My falks have spend time (3.5 years) in the gulags (working camps) for trying to leave Russia, but we still came to the US legally. I was even kicked ouf from school and was branded a traitor along with my family for wanting to leave communism, but it did not stop us from obtaining legal documentation and moving to the US legally.
My beef with the Mexican community is this Mexico is a democratic country with elections if they do not like their leaders they should elect other leaders. Yes, I know that there is a huge descrimination against certain groups in Mexico, but still it is a Democratic country they have no reason to come here illegally. America too has its problems with race and here in the Southeast I have noticed that African Americans are still looked down to as are the Jews, Muslims, and Gays. Yet, you do not see a flight of African Americans to Canada.
They can do what my falks did and apply to come to the states legally. Unlike in the former Soviet Union no Mexican will risk life in working camp by wanting to immigrate to the States.
Of course if they come here illegaly and they have no rules to deffend and they always no the look out against deportation of course there will be low self-esteem within their communities, and that can lead to crime as a way to prove that they have some control over their lifes.
CAN YOU AFFORD TO EAT EVERY DAY THREE MEALS A DAY? THANK A ILLEGAL THAT MAKES IT AFFORDABLE FOR YOU.
First it is not a race, national or cultural thing. It is an economical thing. Poverty creates desperation and desperate behavior. Second, there is a filtration process. People that were successful or making a living in Mexico had no reason to leave. So the people that are pouring over the border illegally are the one that were not making a go of it already for whatever reason. Thirdly another layer of filtration, they have, every single one of them, already proven a willingness to break US law. They got here illegally (breaking the law) so they are are more likely to be of a mindset that other laws are just as breakable.

I have to answer AlunaticFriend. He states there are two kind of illegal immigrants hard working and the other are criminals. BOTH ARE CRIMINALS. Why are people onfused by this?
First "white flight" is the result of large groups of higher income "whites" leaving the area because they think that its going to go down hill, then of course since the they are the higher income earners and were what kept the community income up in the first place it instantly starts to go down. Self fulfilling prophecy. I've been in plenty of neighborhoods where large groups of migrant workers come in and the economy actually improves because people don't leave and the migrant workers add a larger population of consumers. On the other hand I've seen the same thing your talking about in other places where people leave quickly and it goes to crap. Of course I've seen the same thing happen albeit slower when large groups of African Americans or white Trash move into an area. Its not caused so much by the race of the people moving in as it is by the fear and ignorance of the people who decide to leave because they don't like how their neighborhood is changing.
It's so sad that because of the lack of intelligence we are subjected to have to read stupid questions as this. Instead of posting dumb questions why don't you find a solution to an existing problem. You are not really concerned about illegal immigration you are more concerned on teaching hatred, racism and ignorance. Like there aren't bad white families out there in the world. You don't hear about Mexican mother's drowning their babies in a car so they get rid of the pesty kids to keep the boyfriend.
If you served in the US military then you are a true citizen because you put your life on the line to protect us and our ideology. If you immigrated to the United States (legally or not), then you are a true citizen because you went through hardships in your life and are truely out to achieve the American dream. Everyone else who are US citizens, you were just lucky enough to come out of your mother's vagina in US soil.
there are many us soldiers with no citizen ship fighting in iraq !
and the first boss leading the way when the iraq war started was a mexican !
One Instance . . .

Four Undocumented children in Arizona named "Smartest Kids In America" by NASA, when the four bested all entries, including MIT, by taking FIRST PLACE in a NASA sponsored National Underwater Robotics Contest in 2005.

Underfunded and without the large group of scientific advisors like their competitors, the four "Illegal Alien" high schoolers not only developed an underwater robot that beat out all the other teams, but also MIT's team of over 100 members that included some of MIT's brightest scientific minds, but the four invented a new process in underwater technology.

That’s just the undoc kids, their parents are way more industrious and have contributed to the US in thousands of ways – every day!

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