Is it fear or is it arrogance that keeps Hispanic immigrants from learning English?
Here is an article that agrees with me in regards to their fears:
http://www.tamu.edu/univre1/aggiedaily/n...
Answer:
""Just because some people choose to speak Spanish, sometimes, why should it bother anybody""
If I go to court as a juror like I did a few months ago and the defendant couldnt understand english, and we had to have a court appointed and tax payer paid for person dictating everything in spanish for him then it does and should bother me.
When I go to a store to buy some groceries and I see a mother and her kids there and I see them speaking to them in spanish I wonder to myself, why arent they pushing the kids to learn english. They will need to know it to get anywhere in society.
Then I find myself in line 10 minutes later and the line is very long because someone in line cant understand what the cashier is saying and is holding up the line for everyone else.
My grandfather didnt know english when he came to the USA either. But he was deteremined to learn and never spoke anything but english ( as best he could ) in public becuase it was important for him to assimilate.
Amongst your familiy or friends at home or in a gathering of people who speak that language its perfectly fine.
But if you are going out somewhere expecting to interact with people who speak english as just about everyone in the USA does, then you either should know it, or have someone with you who knows it.
Its courteous to others, and its common sense.
why should anyone care.humans are not illegall!
who are you? like u dont think the same. ITS CALLED HAVING A JOB AND SUPPORTING A FAMILY! They dont all have the luxury of going to school just like you!
I think its IGNORANCE. I guess no one told them that you should be able to speak the language of the country you're in. And if they wanted to keep their culture, what the hell are they doing here?
It's neither. It is because we allow them and make provision for them to continue to speak their native language.
The reason Hispanic immigrants have such a hard time with English is the same reason so many Asian, European and other ethnic immigrants do - English is one of the hardest languages to learn there ever has been. It's worse than Mandarin Chinese. Fear and arrogance have NOTHING to do with it.
Many of them work very hard and are too tired to go to school at the end of the day.
Also near where I live there's a town where everyone is Hispanic and they don't need to speak English.
Hopefully the children will learn to speak English in school unless the bi-lingual education folks have their way.
The language we use is English, Krystal and Kevil, and if you plan on being successful here you need to learn the English language. I'm not saying you should abandon your heritage or culture but sometimes you have to learn the "operating" language where you live.
Part of the problem is that many feel that the southwest US was stolen from Mexico. So they figure they should live as though that never happened. Which means speaking Spanish, and getting mad at people who speak English.
If it definitely fear..Have you ever tried to learn a second language? I have and it is very difficult.First generation Mexicans will rarely master English.But their children, 2nd and 3rd generations speak perfect English.Myself and my cousins are all second generation Mexican/American, and we all speak English as a first language.Be patient with people, they will eventually assimilate, Rome wasn't built in a day.
Can you please tell me how immigrants are forcing govt. and businesses to print in Spanish? Have you seen riots or civil disobedience? I haven't..How is our govt/businesses being forced to do this?
I'm with you: it's both.
Most immigrants learn English in time. But English is a difficult language to learn, and working and raising a family leaves little time.
I don't think it's fear at all. They just don't want to or they don't think they need to. Many times they don't need to since we carter to their ignorance by translating everything into Spanish.
u acting like ALL hispanic immigrants dont learn english. the ones that dont probably feel like they dont need to, cuz theres spanish translations everywhere. my dad doesnt care about learning english cuz he feels like he doesnt need to.
It's esthetics.
We don't like the ugly sounds produced by such a barbaric language.
When in a language you have twice as many verbs as adjectives, it tells me it belongs to a people used to acting without properly thinking things through.
When in a language you lack the subjunctive, it tells me such people cannot imagine what could have been or what might be, they are (like the animals) bound by the here and now.
When a language can turn any noun into a verb by just adding a mere suffix, that tells me there is an obvious lack of artistic imagination and a lack of capacity to express complex thoughts.
Thinking in English makes you see the world in Black and White. It's a language that severely limits the nuances of reality. That's why we reject such a limited, animal-like tongue.
They are not the same immigrants that came a long time ago. If we were to track one for 10 years or so, we would see them gradually learn.
The new ones don't know English yet, but they will.
Just because some people choose to speak Spanish, sometimes, why should it bother anybody (when they know both)?
This is the USA...If people want to live here then they need to learn the language of the country.Which is..English! I have traveled in a few countries and there was no one there running to get me an interpreter. You don't lose your culture by learning to speak the language of the country where you live. It is just fact that if you have someone to cater to your needs, Why do you need to even try. Learn the language or pay for your own interpreter...I am tired of my tax dollars going for unnecessary things. My grandchildren are 50% Hispanic and they were taught both languages.With English being the first!
One more thing
I have no problem with people who come here wanting to maintain their culture...And that is the way it should be.I have no problem with people wanting to use their own language and teach it to their young..That is the way it should also be...However..Learn English also. People need to be able to communicate here as well.
well, it's nice to hear someone say hispanic immigrants for a change.
i have one question though. Do you base your thinking on personal acquaintances with illegal immigrants or ...?
If you look around you it is not only the Hispanic immigrants that are not learning the English language, it is all immigrants. They are afraid to lose their heritage and then their kids will be too americanize and refuse to follow in their religion and traditions. But on the other hand they also don't want to learn the language so they can have an excuse and always say "I'm sorry I don't understand what you are saying to me". Which to me is a cop out. We are catering to them - we have and continue to give them free medical, housing and food stamps. We put signs everywhere in all the languages you can think of just to appease the politicians who are fighting to keep them here so when voting time comes around they have their constituents.
It's tradition. Why do they speak Chinese in China town?
Chinese , who have come from the other side of the world- overwhelmingly speak enough English to get around in the States. how are they doing?
I think you need to get over yourself and the belief that anyone in the United States is obligated to assimilate. Who are you to tell people that they must subordinate their own culture to yours? They work here. They help build this country. They don't owe you or anyone else anything beyond that.
Actually most Legal hispanic immigrants I know are more than willing to learn and speak English very well.
I think it is arrogance. They have come and changed neighborhoods in So. Calif so that it is their own little Mexico.
From the mouth of Gov. Schwarzenegger ~
He swings back again and complains about a shopping center in the Los Angeles area that was built entirely for Spanish-speakers, and he says that it reminds him of Mexico City. He complains that too many Mexicans don’t seem to want to assimilate into the dominant American culture the way he thinks earlier waves of immigrants have done. He compares Mexican immigrants to house guests who refuse to leave or help with the family’s chores. Interestingly, on this sensitive issue he notes that while he has mentioned it gingerly, he can’t really share his true thoughts in public.
http://www.sacbee.com/static/weblogs/ins...
scroll down to the bottom of the article to see the whole article
if you are an illegal mexican you will get treated like an animal but now if a real alien from a different world came they would get treated like kings..aint that a **?
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