Amongst all its other problems does the new immigration proposal beg for fraud?
In 1986 there was rampant fraud "The program soon became a target for widespread fraud.
The most notorious instance involved Mahmud Abouhalima, an Egyptian who entered the country on a tourist visa in 1985 and worked illegally as a New York taxi driver after his tourist visa expired. Abouhalima's application for amnesty as an agricultural worker was approved and he later was able to travel to Afghanistan, where he received terrorist training. He later was convicted for his role in planning the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center.
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Yes
"The leadership of all 11,000 nonsupervisory U.S. Border Patrol agents yesterday criticized an immigration compromise by senators and the Bush administration as “piecemeal” legislation that invites future terrorist attacks and fails to secure the nation’s borders.
“Every person who has ever risked their life securing our borders is extremely disheartened to see some of our elected representatives once again waving the white flag on the issues of illegal immigration and border security,” National Border Patrol Council President T.J. Bonner said.
“Rewarding criminal behavior has never induced anyone to abide by the law, and there is no reason to believe the outcome will be any different this time,” he said."
That alone is enough for me to want to see this bill shoved up some political rear endages (nice words for yahoo), when the people who will be enforcing the law are against it, there is a problem..
thats why they said before January 1st 07 not January 1st 01. there will be fraud but not as much. and the door closes after 18 months.
Look at it this way -- we have a lot of undocumented illegal citizens. Some of them will use this program to become normalized citizens. Some is more than none. If we catch and deport them all, they'll just keep coming. Something has to be done, this is something. It will work only if they enforce illegal immigration at the border and within the country.
You know where I, too, stand on this thing. I really don't care what bill they come up with - if they aren't going to enforce it, then it will just create more problems. There will always be opportunists that find a way around the laws. And, God forbid, if anything catastrophic ever happens because of the lax border control, everyone will be scratching their heads saying, "What happened? Why didn't someone do something about this?"
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Ive had several people use this argument against me when debating the Immigration Reform Act, and I dont buy it as a valid defense against passing the bill.
In my mind, saying the bill shouldnt be passed because some people will attempt to use it to create fraudulent identeties is like saying food stamps shouldnt exist because not everyone will use food stamps to buy food. It is the expectation of these programs that people will use them for what they are meant for and many people do.
However, if passed i can guarantee some people will attempt to create fraudulent identities and defraud the federal gov't. Thats just how it goes. Its not an easy situation when dealing with people who have no identity within the US. It would be my hope that there would be a significant burden of proof as to minimize situations like the one mentioned in your question.
And it would also be my hope that border security would be strenghtened before handing out visas.
I do not know what to say here except that it is sad that it has come down to the point that we can not trust our leaders to make decisions to protect the American people and our economy and social structure.
I want to believe this reform will help, I have seen things in it that IF ENFORCED, will help slow illegal activities but we have laws in place now which are blatantly ignored by both illegal immigrants and their employers along with enforcement agencies in this country. No one ever gives a second thought to the taxpayers or their needs or our future.
We are a lame country, we make rules we do not enforce and try to make new rules with the hopes that a band-aid will stop the profuse bleeding. Our leaders do not follow the will of the people, something is seriously broken here.
To answer your quesiton, yes I think fraud will happen, you can not have an effective background check, if any, in 24 hours on people who are from other countries and have no records in the US, its a joke...
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