Honestly,how many people would be willing to do the jobs immigrants do in the U.S.?
Answer:
No one would do it for the same pay, which is a huge part of the problem. Pay for farmers (and construction workers etc) has dropped dramatically since the flood of illegal immigration increased to current levels. That is why Cesar Chavez was so violently against illegal immigration. It undermines the living wage for workers.
Then on top of that, it ruins our schools.
I'd much rather pay the money in straight subsidies to farmers to pay legal workers more. I'd save it in taxes to subsidize their workers through social service programs, in any event.
Moody, funny you should raise that. In 1977 California had an education system that was held up to the country as an example, and almost 90% of Californians graduating from high school went on to higher education.
Now over 60% of students in LA drop out before graduating from high school, the schools are on year round schedules (as they weren't in 1977) our teachers teach on emergency certificates (as they didn't in 1977) and gifted programs, PE, music and language classes which were standard in our schools in 1977 have been cut from the schools to pay for ESL programs and ESL targetted support programs. With the continued failure of the ESL demographic to improve, they are starting a new round of meetings to see what else they can do, besides assigned tutors and counselors, family intervention, ESL classes, remedial classes, test tutoring, etc that they already offer. Since I have heard of no plan to increase the education budget, that too will come from our children's education funds.
Look it up, I am not exagerating, but you won't believe it unless you find the information for yourself.
Honestly, not me. However, I do want them to come into this country LEGALLY. I do not want to pay any undue taxes or expenses (education, auto insurance, hospital bills, etc) for someone that is not here legally and ends up costing me more money.
Incidently, I have detassled corn, had a paper route and worked in restaurants for years. I will do whatever it takes to pay the bills.
A lot more if they didn't have to pay taxes and their babies were paid for by the government and they could get by on tacos.
Americans' lawns and flower beds would certainly be a mess!
no one could anyway because of the minimum wage laws that the misinformed public is in such support of.
Honestly I would have to say NO to migrant work.But,if I were to lose my job tomorrow and migrant work was the only job around that I could support my family doing,guess what ? I'd go pick that cabbge in a heartbeat.But not for the same pay,they would have to pay me more.
Also in the UK as well, probably none.
you are stuck in a five year old information loop. the framing finishing drywall and cement industry were depreciated by cheap labor. diging roots all day is a very very very small part of the labor that illegals do. look at swift foods. how many illegals were making good money doing jobs that many legal residents could and would do. stop spouting information that is very very old.
IMMIGRANT (here legally).
Illegal alien (NOT here legally)
Learn the difference.
Scumbag employers that hire illegal aliens are the traitors that drag down the job scale. Why would they pay YOU a decent wage with benefits when they can get an illegal alien do it for less with NO benefits?
In California and Nevad they have takenover the trades such as plumbing carpentry anything to do with building. It has lowered the standard of living and my guess is you probably live in the east some place where you are insulated from the real serious issue. Also a huge percentage of violent crimes are commited by illegales. The 13 year old boy abducted in florida was kidnaped bound and left for dead in a wooded area. This would not have happened if we had secured our borders.
I've heard this question asked many times when it came to the (illegal)immigration debate. My answer is this...have you ever been to Hawaii? The reason I ask is that there are very few-if any illegal immigrants there and yet they somehow find people to flip burgers, clean toilets and scrub floors. Yes they pay more, but the cost of living is outrageous there too.
If you are talking about the fruit and vegetable industries, we could have America's do it, and I think there are people who would gladly take these jobs, but they would have to pay higher wages and provide better work environments. This in turn would skyrocket the cost of these goods.
DAR is right, we need to subsidize the farmers so they can afford to pay Americans to do the job!
Throughout our history it has been the immigrants that have done the hard labor - no mater which nationality. Working hard to elevate the quality of their lives and giving their kids a better life - who then don't want to do the crap jobs and then a new group moves in from a different country.
Lots! Remember what happened when they raided the Swift Foods plant - LEGAL citizens were lining up to take those jobs. Kids used to be the ones doing lots of jobs.
When people talk about costs rising, all the talk about a $5 head of lettuce is BS. Cost are estimated to MAYBE rise a few cents.
Honestly? Less than 2% of illegals are employed in agriculture. More than 50% have displaced journeyman tradesman in the home construction field, working for a third of standard wages. Illegals are also responsible for a 45% jump in the crime rate. This percentage is even higher in border states. Additionally, illegals have been linked to the murders of more than 48,000 Americans since 9 / 11. Something to consider the next time you put lettuce on your hamburger!
My freaking husband (now a 6-figure CPA) mowed lawns all through college. Last year my teen couldn't even get 5 lawns to do b/c the illegals in TX have that business completely monopolized. Instead he has to work at a retarded fast food place until he is 18 w/ a bunch of illegals working on STOLEN or FAKE social security numbers (including the asst. mgr.)! Once they get a car & a few thousand bucks saved, they just drive on back to their cardboard shack in some politically oppressive South American country. One just left this week, making no secret of his plans! Honestly, I think it would be best for ALL of South/Central America/Mexico if we completely closed our border. If those people couldn't skitter over here so easily, they would have an incentive to rebel against their oppressive, moronic governments. That might mean we'd end up w/ some newly communist neighbors, but at least they wouldn't be sharing their HEPATITIS w/ greater Houston!
Well I clean at a motel and my husband does construction,both jobs illegals apply for everyday. And if Americans got all the fringe welfare benifits they could afford to work any of the lower paying jobs too. We barely get by because our medical bills are so high,yet illegals get free medical,how do I know that,they dont mind telling me.What can I say,your welcome?
A lot of people. Who do you think used to do these jobs? The reason for going to immigrants is because they will do the work for a lot cheaper and they don't complain because if they do they will be replaced. It wouldn't be the same pay because employers would then have to pay minimum wage for U.S. citizens.
We have laws to protect our citizens. The employers of illegals thumb their noses at the law in two ways: by hiring illegals and paying illegal wages. The illegals can manage nicely on these wages if they have no other expenses. The ones that the citizens pay for them. But just in case you hadn't noticed, illegals are taking jobs that many citizens would be proud to have if they could get them. And they are driving down wages in these jobs too. Those of you who feel so superior and safe might want to take notice. They WILL be after your job next. And they'll probably get it too. Have you learned Spanish yet?
I've done "grunt work" before (concrete, machine shop, dish washing, landscaping........among other things). I am not hae I been ashamed to do things like that. The only thing is that I have priced myself out of that income bracket through college and a corporate career.
Unfortunately the illegals are no longer just picking fruits and vegetables they are taking construction jobs, restaurant jobs etc.. many of them are getting savvy and picky as to how much pay they want. I for one will never hire one that is why we are being overrun if people would quit hiring them they would go home so shame on all the tight wads that are hiring them you are the ones responsible for the mass exodus into the united states that is ruining our country.
Many Americans have done those jobs, and would continue to do them for a decent living wage. America was completely functional before the illegals arrived, and it will be functional after they are deported.
IIllegals work in the service industry - This is what I did while I was in college - housekeeping, banquet service, room service, inventory, dishwashing in hotels and restaraunts. I used to work in call centers that are now primarily staffed with bilingual anchor babies. My first job was in fast food, as it was for many teenage Americans back in the day.
Illegals work in Warehouse/Industrial jobs - Jobs that were once great paying steady jobs. I used to work for two manufacturing companies doing assembly and packaging.
My brother in law used to have a successful building contractor business with American workers, he had to switch careers because he was tired of being outbid by competitors with cheap day laborers.
I don't need an illegal to cut my grass, and trim my hedges that's what husbands and sons are for. ;-)
What is "migrant' work???
There is not ONE job you can name that ILLEGALS do, that was not done BEFORE they came here, by an AMERICAN!!!!
These jobs INCLUDE,field work (i've known PLENTY of people who used to work the fields before ILLEGALS starting taking those jobs!!) And, construction work (USED TO BE done by a large majority of white AND black workers, AGAIN before the illegals came!!)
Food preperation?? Done by AMERICANS before illegals also took those jobs!!!
Factory/plant work??? Done by Americans before illegals took THOSE jobs!!!!
And, for those of you who believe that ILLEGALS will ONLY do this type work......well, i've got NEWS for YOU!!!! The ILLEGAL parents will work those jobs, but, their ILLEGAL kids will NOT!!! They will get educated(paid for by OUR tax dollars) then they will be in postions to help THEIR people!! It has been happening for YEARS here already!!! MY kids did NOT get any help to go to college, and WE pay TAXES, so did my parents,grandparents,great grandparents,etc!!
Just look at all the latino politicians who are working to benefit those of their OWN heritage already!!!! I could name MANY of them, but it would take TOO LONG!!!!
I wouldn't work for little money. It is unfair for people ( regarding their legal status) to work hard for low pay. Illegals steal jobs and are a burden to society. No amnesty.
This question has been asked to death on here. Why do people keep asking it? You get the same answers every time!
Yes, Americans will do these jobs but not at slave labor wages, of course! These wages have been illegally reduced because of employers hiring illegal workers.
As to the higher cost of living in Hawaii - I would say that is mosly because EVERYTHING has to be imported to Hawaii, so things are more expensive because of the costs related to shipping.
I live in BC, Canada and we have very little illegal immigration here, yet we have agriculture, construction, fast food places, restaurants, lawns to mow, children to be babysat, houses to be cleaned, etc. and I can tell you that the cost of our food and products is very similar to the costs in the USA, despite the exchange on the dollar. Therefore, don't try to say that without illegal immigrants, the costs of food and products would skyrocket in the US, because that is BS. Canadians and legal immigrants do these jobs in Canada - students, senior citizens and stay-at-home moms who like to work part-time. Also, not everyone becomes a college or university graduate and so there are always people who want physical or low-skilled jobs. Less educated people can make a good living in landscaping businesses, construction, factories, etc. Illegal immigrants are NOT providing a service to the country - they are always a net drain on a country. Legal immigrants are almost always a net benefit to a country. I have no problem with legal immigrants - ever. Illegal immigrants are takers, serving themselves, only. People who hire illegal immigrants are shamefully taking advantage of an already disadvantaged people; they are not helping them. Employers of illegal immigrants are fattening their own wallets, not passing on savings to consumers. Don't kid yourself!
I HAVE done those jobs. It doesn't just stop at picking crops either! They are developing crop pickers that will pick even strawberries and in a bout 5 to 10 years they will be using those and not paying illegal aliens anything. Not only that, but the illegal aliens are taking the skilled labor jobs which America today was made on.
Perfect example...after Katrina there were a bunch of AMERICANS who were cleaning up after the storm...then after two weeks they let all those people go and said that the ILLEGAL ALIENS were there to finish the job at a fraction of the cost.
As far as the jobs that illegal aliens do which I HAVE done is I was a dishwasher a couple of different times throughout my life going through college and such. I have also been a CNA which, from what I understand is now being driven by illegal aliens in certain instances. You think this helps the US when there aren't jobs for the AMERICANS here?
if we cut off welfare, they will HAVE to do the work.
that's what we have them for, just get rid of the ones without a job and the ones living on welfare.
run the government like a business, if you have no work for them fire them, and send them home
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