If you had the power to solve Americas illegal immigration problem, how would you do it?
We just had a brutal murder occur in our city by a man that was here from guatemala working at a meat plant under an assumed name and who belongs to the vicious gang MS13. I know that the employers are looking the other way, but the answer can't be to round up the employees. that's like putting your finger in a leaky dam. Ideas.
Answer:
So many people have based their arguments on how this land is made up of immigrants. Some suggest we should tear down the Statute of Liberty because the people now in question aren't being treated the same as those who passed through Ellis Island and other
ports of entry.
Maybe we should turn to our history books and point out to people like that why today's American is not willing to accept this new kind of immigrant any longer.
Back in 1900 when there was a rush from all areas of Europe to come to the United States, people had to get off a ship and stand in a long line in New York and be documented. Some would even get down on their hands and knees and kiss the ground. They made a pledge to uphold the laws and support their new country in good and bad times. They made learning English a primary rule in their new American households and some even changed their names to blend in with their new home.
They had waved good bye to their birth place to give their children a new life and did everything in their power to help their children assimilate into one culture. Nothing was
handed to them. No free lunches, no welfare, no labor laws to protect them.
All they had were the skills and craftsmanship they had brought with them to trade for a future of prosperity.
Most of their children came of age when World War II broke out. My father fought along side men whose parents had come straight over from Germany, Italy, France and Japan. None of these 1st generation Americans ever gave any thought about what country their
parents had come from.
They were Americans fighting Hilter, Mussolini and the Emperor of Japan. They were defending the United States of America as one people. When we liberated France, no one in those villages were looking for the French-American or the German American or the Irish American. The people of France saw only Americans.
And we carried one flag that represented one country. Not one of those immigrant sons would have thought about picking up another country's flag and waving it to represent who they were. It would have been a disgrace to their parents who had sacrificed so much to be here. These immigrants truly knew what it meant to be an American. They stirred the melting pot into one red, white and blue bowl.
And here we are in 2006 with a new kind of immigrant who wants the same rights and privileges. Only they want to achieve it by playing with a different set of rules, one that includes the entitlement card and a guarantee of being faithful to their mother country.
I'm sorry, that's not what being an American is all about.
I believe that the immigrants who landed on Ellis Island in the early 1900s deserve better than that for all the toil, hard work and sacrifice in raising future generations to create a land that has become a beacon for those legally searching for a better life. I think they would be appalled that they are being used as an example by those waving foreign country flags.
And for that suggestion about taking down the Statute of Liberty, it happens to mean a lot to the citizens who are voting on the immigration bill. I wouldn't start talking about
dismantling the United States just yet.
NO welfare or freebies would be a good start.
Subject: FW: Draft
Illegal Immigration
From the Monday Deseret News
Focus on victims of illegal immigration
By Ronald W. Mortensen
Having responded to some of the world's most tragic humanitarian crises including the genocide in Darfur , Sudan , and the earthquake in Pakistan , I have seen innocent people who have lost everything - homes, children and parents.
In Darfur, people pass their lives in desolate camps where their homes consist of a few sticks with a sheet of plastic draped over them, a jerry can for their water supply, a couple of pots and pans, an open fire to cook on and a hole in the ground for a bathroom. Children fall sick one day and die the next. These people truly merit our compassion.
Now compare that to the compassion advocated by the supporters of in-state tuition for the "foreign-born" children of illegal immigrants. Compassion, we are told, supersedes the law, and anyone who opposes in-state tuition is labeled as being self-righteous, a zealot and a racist by the Deseret Morning News' editorial writers.
Of course, this is misplaced compassion because it encourages children to break our immigration laws while failing to acknowledge that they cannot work legally for reputable employers either before or after graduation without committing document fraud and identity theft. But, perhaps most troubling is the fact that it fails to show compassion for the true victims of illegal immigration such as the thousands and thousands of Utah children, who according to Attorney General Mark Shurtleff, have had their identities stolen by illegal aliens.
Where is the compassion for the young parents in Draper who are trying to recover their 2-year-old daughter's identity after an illegal alien used it to get two jobs, take out loans and obtain credit cards?
Where is the compassion for the family of the nurse who was recently killed when an illegal immigrant left his wrecked vehicle in the road in southern Utah ?
Where is the compassion for Utahns who must pay more for their health care in order to offset the free medical care provided to illegal immigrants?
Where is the compassion for the Utah family who has a premature baby and now faces bankruptcy while an illegal immigrant runs up hundreds of thousands of dollars in medical bills and pays nothing?
Where is the compassion for the Utah child who is forced into an overcrowded classroom in order to accommodate tens of thousands of illegal immigrant children?
Where is the compassion for our children who are addicted to and dying from heroin and other drugs provided by illegal immigrant drug cartels?
And why did the arrest of dozens of illegal immigrants, who committed identity theft in order to get jobs, result in an outpouring of compassion for their families rather than for their victims who have had their lives turned upside down?
If the media, the Alliance for Unity and other illegal immigrant advocates are truly concerned about Utah, let them begin by focusing on the true victims of illegal immigration - their fellow citizens whose identities have been stolen, whose health-care system is being destroyed, whose children's education is suffering and whose family members have been killed by illegal immigrants.
Then, if these advocates of misplaced compassion still wish to support those illegally in the United States, let them use their personal funds to create and support scholarships, free clinics and welfare programs for illegal aliens and let them treat those who honestly disagree with them with civility rather than childishly calling them names.
Ronald W. Mortensen is a retired Foreign Service officer who served three tours in Africa and continues to respond to international humanitarian crises.
This one is easy.
Start randomly around the country picking companies with known illegals in them. First levy the TRUE fines against that company. THen ship ALL the illegals home THAT DAY without any notice. Break up just a couple families. (as horrible as that sounds.. suck it UP) and you just watch the people start scrambling with their little anchor babies BACK to mehico.
Its time to break up some FAMILIES!
PAIN is the most powerful motivator.
(oh.. and beware Bush is pushing a law to allow illegals access to SS in 18 months of working here. is he a lib or WHAT)
If I had the power to solve Americas illegal immigration.
I WOuld solveit by Using this power. Since I had it. And its enough to solve!
Well the first thing I would do is deport Kooko0 Banana's (he's way out there (to much kool-aide), and did you know that Illegal Immigrants kill twice as many Americans Every Year than what we have lost in Iraq? True fact. Secure the borders, fence or wall them and put a killing zone in the middle, go through legally or take your chances!
I think we should hold aworld-wide conference about some way to help this people without bending over backwards or breaking our necks. I mean what if you were them, we got lucky at birth, sort-of. I don't think they should be allowed in only n because they mae more problems and its not like America is the Golden Palace of Richness but at the same time i would want to do soemthing to help the "good ones" not the druggies
So if he legally immigrated to the US, would the killing be ok in your mind?
Or do we just try to stop killers and not immigrants?
I live in Miami, That said I think you know where I am going, hey let the Cuban & Hatians come in just let everybody get a chance to share ouyr misery, ie; I would let Utah, Idaho, Wisconsin ect, all those states that maybe hardly ever seen a minority have our experience
to lighten our load down here if they get to stay ship them outta state we are running out of room here, & in these other states they have acres and miles of vast land thats unsettled.
Simple, enforce the laws that are already in palce. Crack down on employers, shut down anyone found using illegal immeegrant work, let the border patrol actually stop people going through the border, and same with the national guard (they aren't allowed to use force and can't actually detain anyone or make them stop).
Summarized,
1. scaare the employers by having a nationwide crackdown, the ones who arent busted will re-staff
2. enforece the laws in place, let border patrol do their jobs instead of giving them 10 year sentances for shooting a drug dealer who attacks them
Yah MS 13 is a terrible gang too btw. Theyr getting huge. However I thought everyone in MS13 was elsalvadorian?
I have no problem if people want to come to our country and make a better life for themselves. Everyone deserves that. BUT, do it legally and work like the rest of us and don't rely on government support. Its obvious they do not respect our country.
Definitely stricter security laws.
-For the borders. They get a couple warnings to turn back. If they run or don't listen, shoot in the leg and return them to where they came from. If a fight is put up and they have a weapon, shoot to kill.
-Limit the amount of federal and government help they get when they come here. Persoanlly it pisses me off that its so easy for them to get so much government support and the people that are born in this country/americans get denide the help.
If illegals are found here, deport them without the chance of trying to become a legal citizen. They broke the law, so therefore they do not deserve to live here if they can't obey our laws.
It's an invasion. War.
Fine the companies that hire or cater to them out of business, put the money back into our schools and hospitals. Build the fence, guard it with deadly force. Round up the illegals and the ones that help them, make them walk back to mexico and taking their anchor babies with them. Take their property, cars, houses, whatever they leave behind and divide it amongst the ones that they took jobs from!
It is so simple, a child could figure it out, which is why the last 20 or so Presidents didn't do it.
Bring home all American troops currently stationed in Germany and post them along the border. They have the training and the equipment already. REALLY, why build a fence when we have an army?
First, i would SEAL THE BORDERS!!!!
Both of them (mexico AND canadian)!!! Then i would seize ALL assets of those who hire ILLEGALS, including bank accounts, businesses, homes, property, ANY assets gained from illegal labor!!! I would have employers JAILED and FINED!!!
I would have ANYONE who caters to OR encourages illegals to come here, ARRESTED and their businesses confiscated!!! This INCLUDES B of A, and every business that caters to ILLEGALS!!!!
Next, i would go after those who help ILLEGALS!!! Anyone who RENTS to them, anyone who HARBORS them ( INCLUDING their family members!!) I would make it so IMPOSSIBLE for illegals, that they would deport THEMSELVES!!!!!
I would inform the mexican government to warn their people that MINES have been planted at the border, and if they want to be a "good neighbor", they will NOT come here UNINVITED!!!!
I would CUT OFF any and all social services to ILLEGALS!!!! This WOULD include the ABUSE of our medical facilities!!!!
And, last but not least, i would STOP the anchor baby BS!!!!! If BOTH parents are not here LEGALLY, then their KID is an ILLEGAL also!!!!
If a kid is born in a garage, does that make him a car???
NO!!!!!!
Me for President!!!
1. Control our borders and ports. 2. Enforce all immigration laws. 3. Fine, jail, and or close down those that hire illegal immigrants. 4. Fine and or jail those renting to illegal immigrants. 5. Deport all illegal immigrants here in our country. 6. Shut down groups like MS13, and La Raza. After all of these are done, we the people can debate immigration reform, we can talk about if and what laws are out dated.
make illegals citizens
We have an enforcement problem. Forty years ago, we had no 'border fence' and we weren't overrun with Mexicans. What has changed is our WILLINGNESS to enforce existing law, because politicians won't allow it. You couldn't flout tax law like this!
1. Control the border
2. Sanctions for employers that hire illegal aliens
3. Set a date about a year out, with a one-way 'open border' policy of unimpeded return to Mexico (& all points south). Then round up the remainder
Try living in El Paso Tx, we live with illegals full time, they are getting welfare, housing, food stamps, It seems like in El paso people have forgotton that this is America, I have seen people who have lived in El Paso for 30 years and still don't speak a lick of english. When I go to the grocery store and they take out that food stamp card, it burns me up, i'm in american citizen and don't get food stamps, you can't get good jobs here in El paso because you have to speak spanish, they have turned El Paso in to Mexico. All the builders who build homes here use illegals, they work in the factorys, anywhere you can think of a job in El Paso Tx illegals work there, and the said part is its 700 thousand plus population here of hispanics so you know they band together to give there own jobs. You think you have it bad where ever you are living with a few illegals, try living in El Paso Tx. I have 2 more years to be here, and you can bet I'm leaving. Blame the people who hire them, rent to them, sell to them, our own people in american is helping illegals, I bet if we stop giving them health care, shelter, jobs, they will all leave fast, but all american have to be on board, we need to take control of this situation, if it's 11 million now, they way they are crossing the borders like rabbits, by next year, we'll be looking at 11 million more.
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