Does mass deportation cost less than amnesty?
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Hmmm. I actually was going to be smug, but when one thinks about it..I cannot answer this question without really researching... Well, time to go and research..
One thing I wonder about in the time being: Why can't we simply put in place a much more aggressive immigration policy, which though not perfect, would certainly be better than the status quo?
Yes. Amnesty is opening up this nation and even more of our social services to criminals. This will just create even more illegals. Why bother coming in the right way we you can be forgiven every 25 years or so.
Yes.
Gets the illegals off the payrolls of the american taxpayer. For far less than the $40 billion a year these criminals are costing us, we can run LOTS of buses to the south, and fill up LOTS of military transport airplanes to other parts of the world as well.
Of course, we will have to enforce our borders and our immigration laws to keep the criminals from coming back.
But a good investment at the front end of your effort will more than pay for itself 100 times over in future years.
Yes, by billions
I would think so! when you consider the long term affects of Amnesty. Not to mention the next wave of illegals expecting their amnesty as well and so on and so on.
hell yeah
I guess that over the long haul, deportation would win hands down over amnesty because amnesty is a recurring cost. Enforcement cost will be incurred irregardless. Currently, Calif has to build a school a day to keep up and it's going to get worse.
Having worked budgets for many years, recurring costs are murder.
It (mass deportation) would essentially drain the Treasury. The data analysis estimates the cost to be at least $206 billion over 5 years ($41.2 billion annually), and could be as high as $230 billion. We arrived at this number even after assuming that 2 million of the 10 million would leave on their own–a pretty large assumption.
To put $41 billion in perspective, that would exceed the entire annual budget of the Dept of Homeland Security ($34.2 billion) and more the double the annual cost of the war in Afghanistan ($16.8 billion).
Most reasonable politicians have rejected mass deportation as costly and ineffective measure that would do little to improve our security and could devastate key sectors of our economy. This study puts the nail in the coffin for the “just deport ‘em” crowd.
We need real immigration reform, not rhetoric...
Another source states that research has concluded that the cost of amnesty alone will be $2.6 trillion once the amnesty recipients reach retirement age.
So do we take our hard medicine now and mass deport these people? Or grant amnesty and pay later?
yes
Yes it does.
Here are some idea with the States AZ+COL+GA enforcing our laws fining employers the illegals are starting to move some back across the borders.When enough states enforce our laws then more will leave.The cost of social services, health fraud, IDS & SS# fraud, tax fraud,ins fraud.the list can go on.Well pay far less than any deporting will cost.As you only pay 1s to deport as you pay forever on the free bees.It's a no brainer.
The heritage foundation has estimated that "AMNESTY" would cost US taxpayers 2.6 TRILLION DOLLARS by the time that the ILLEGALS hit retirement age. Using ANY mathematical equation outright Is precarious at best,but I will go "OUT ON A LIMB " here and say that It would cost substantially less to DEPORT,than to give an outright AMNESTY.. DEPORTATION ,If done thoughtfully,combined with STRICTER ENFORCEMENT LAWS,would have an OVERWHELMINGLY POSITIVE EFFECT for all UNITED STATES CITIZENS..
Yes mass deportation would only cost money. Amnesty as it is currently proposed would bring in almost 50 million people who do not speak English, know our culture, customs, or laws in a matter of months. If you think our country would still be the same if 2 persons in 6 or 7 were Hispanic then you are ready to pay the cost for amnesty.
Hablan Espanole?
Do you think that the Irish immigration, the Swedish Immigration, or the German Immigration had no major impact on America. Go to the areas where those people settled and look around. Note they wanted to become Americans. Not like the Mexican or Muslim immigrants who want America to become like where they left!
By tens of billions of dollars.
Yes, in my opinion granting amnesty to 12+ million people (plus inevitable chain migration) will mean that we are responsible for all the costs that are associated with their needs up to death. Yes these people will be paying above board taxes and contributing into Social Security but the low skill level and earning potential of many of those will be a deficit to the taxpayers.
Cheapest option, go after employers who do the hiring...
No matter how we decide to handle this it will be costly in many ways, not to mention the depression of worker wages. Its a bad situation all around but granting amnesty would send out a message of reward for breaking our laws and the next wave of illegal immigrants would start immediately - as happened in 1987...
No it would cost a fortune however if we put the right laws in place then it would cost much less and would set a precedence for others who want to cross the boarders illegally. Amnesty is going to cost us immensely as well but in many other ways.
lol look at all the financial expertise in this room...I bet you all have Ph D's
Im flooded by sources and facts.
Yes , yes , yes !!
Estimated costs of deportation is $200 billion. Estimated costs annually to taxpayers in Ohio alone is $3.5 billion. Estimated costs nationwide exceed $150 billion.Add in the estimated $30 to $50 billion they send out of the country annually, removing it from our economy. Projected costs of amnesty over the long run exceed $2.5 trillion.
Looks like deportation is a bargain.
It shouldn't cost anything, they paid to get here, they can pay their own way back!
I am sure of one thing, It would be a hell of a lot cheaper than the Iraq war has been. We have the money for that so why don't we have the money to get rid of the illegals? Just have the federal reserve print up some more worthless paper and get the job done!
Deportation could cost almost nothing. Just run a few adds on tv saying "if you are here after this weekend we will shoot you." Then just shoot a couple and the rest will leave.
In the long run no,,if there was a mass deportation, there would be billions of money saved on all the welfare and federal and state benefits that the illegals stole in the first place, and when there is no one to receive these benefits (due to being deported), then that money goes back into the system...,
Yes, but even if it didn't we want the illegals deported.
Midcenturydesigner is simply wrong...the annual cost to the United States is almost 200 billion dollars...the cost to mass deport is almost the same...however..The last amnesty bill's budget was over 2.7 trillion dollars.now tell me, is it better to mass deport for 200 billion, or pay out 2.7 billion for the amnesty that was offered? yep...I thought so...
One more thing...if the illegals had no jobs, or housing or given any medical services...they would most likely go home or elswhere...that would save alot on mass deportation...so I think that even the cost of 200 billion may very well be an over-estimation...
Yes it is cheaper to do mass deportation
ALL THIS SPENDING OF THE TAX DOLLARS AND WE CAN'T TAKE CARE OF OUR VETERANS.
14 Reasons to deport illegal aliens WITH explanatory URLS's attached.
Hope these 14 reasons are forwarded over and over again until they are read by the majority of Americans. Then they will have something to yell at their U.S. Congressmembers.
1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year. http://tinyurl.com/zob77
2. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens.
http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscale...
3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens.
http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscale...
4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of English! http://transcripts.cnn.com/transcripts/0...
5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/transcripts/0...
6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/transcripts/0...
7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/transcripts/0...
8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare & social services by the American taxpayers.
http://premium.cnn.com/transcripts/0610/...
9. $200 Billion Dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal aliens.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/transcripts/0...
10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that's two and a half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular, their children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the United States . http://transcripts.cnn.com/transcripts/0...
11. During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our Southern Border also, as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from Terrorist Countries. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroine and marijuana, crossed into the U. S. from the Southern border. Homeland Security Report:
http://tinyurl.com/t9sht
12. The National Policy Institute, "estimated that the total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period."
http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.org/p...
13. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances back to their countries of origin. http://www.rense.com/general75/niht.htm...
14. "The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One Million Sex Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States ".
http://www.drdsk.com/articleshtml... So using the LOWEST estimates, the annual cost OF ILLEGAL ALIENS is $338.3 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR! So if deporting them costs between $206 and $230 BILLION DOLLARS, Hell get rid of em', We'll be ahead after the 1st year!
Americans need to wake up!
Depends on how you implement it.
Enforcing laws on the books shouldn't take much.
We do need better record keeping so we can punish employers that try and skirt paying medicare/social security taxes on illegal aliens' wages by claiming they don't know if an employee is an illegal alien when they are found out to be so. However, the side benefit is, this will improve the security of the US internally. It will also provide an ominous (IMO) government precedent in tracking US citizens and aliens (legal as well as illegal) when they use government services.
Really, if the job opportunities dry up in the US due to better adherence and enforcement of labor laws, do you think many illegal aliens can afford to stay here? The invisible hand works.
Yes, and especially if we have them deport themselves. They will leave freely if we refuse to:
give them free schooling
give them jobs
give them places to live
no it does'nt. I'm in favor of labor law enforcement, self deportations don't cost A dime.
Of course it does.
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