Are you ALL Aware of This?
So the next time you see someone whose last name is Perez, Gonzalez or Rodriguez and think to yourself "goddamned wet-back", think twice, because his/her family tree of US born ancestors could be larger than yours.
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Damn straight. This is common knowledge to anyone who knows anything about history...
Yes, Since they pointed the gun and told Lopez to sign the treaty he had no choice but to sign!
America was the aggresor to the Mexicans in the American-Mexican War!!
At least some American Citizens converted To Mexican Citizens at that time! LOL
And your point..???
Nobody thinks that, Tool.
Take your race-baiting and go home, wouldja?
They DO look at marches of thousands of illegal immigrants flying the American flag upside-down while demanding rights, and wonder where in the world those people get off.
So what? Who cares?
good point.
I said it, and I'll say it again: " We are America "
Two countries One Nation.
I haven't had that though in over 50 years. I am concerned about illegal aliens not immigrants or naturalized citizens.
Not if your family came over on the Mayflower...I have family on both sides that came to build this country from England.
And before that, Mexico owned just about everything west of the Mississippi river. It was all part of Mexico - they took it from Spain.
WE could look at practically every country on the planet and go back to when they became a country and see who they took land from. Should we reinstate the Roman empire and all of it's lands, or how about the Medes or the Persians.
Don't be a schmuck. None of us were alive during this war so it is irrelevant to the current discussion.My relatives fled Germany when things got bad there, so I'm not taking crap for what happened in Mexico over a century ago.
I don't have a problem with Mexicans. I have a problem with illegal aliens. There just happen to be 12-20 million that are Mexican.
Yeah and what you don't read about in the history books is the slaughter of many Texas Mexican's who were killed by the Texas Rangers for their land.
duh- but you are generalizing just like you are blaming others for doing.. just because your last name is Perez, Gonzalez, or Rodriguez does not mean you are Mexican either.. they could be from Puerto Rico, or Cuba, or South America... they could be citizens, legal immigrants, or illegals...
And your point is? If you are saying that because this happened in 1846 we should give 20+ MILLION Mexican nationals citizenship "practically overnight" you are NUTS!
BTW, I'm a SMITH. I think my family tree in the US is probably fairly large. Even if Perez is bigger, SO WHAT?
What exactly is your point?
What is your point? It sounded like you got drunk and then posted this question.
i think that most people who dont like mexicans simply dont like them because they are under the incorect impression that all mexicans are illegal immigrants. i personally have nothing against mexicans who have been living here for their entire lives or legally immigrated. its the millions of them that come here illegally that i have a problem with.
I love how to prove you and other spin doctors wrong. Mexicans owned it first. Or Mexican this and Mexican that.
The war, is the Mexcian/American war which Mexico lost. As a result, The United States forgave $3.25 million of Mexico’s debt and paid Mexico $15 million for the ceded territories ...
As for Mexicans owned it first or Mexico owned just about everything west of the Mississippi river. It was all part of Mexico took it from the Spanairds...
Someone has forgotten about the Louisiana Purchase which happened to be Most of the land was occupied by Native Americans and their French allies. Not Mexico.
Yaqui History
Native Americans are the true experts about Indian travels and ways of life. The Yaqui people have used oral traditions to pass their rich history from one generation to the next. This is the history of the Yaqui as told by Ernesto Quiroga Sandoval, Historian, Pascua Yaqui Tribe.
The Creator made ocean animals and allowed some to emerge onto land. Some evolved into a short human form: the Surem. These are the early ancestors of the Yaquis. The Sureni lived in a time out of mind and were a peace-loving, gentle people who had no need for government. Life in the Sonoran desert was a harmonious perfection for the Surem until God spoke through a little tree and prophesied about new horticultural techniques, Christianity, savage invaders, and disunity. The Surem became frightened about parts of this message and transformed into taller, defensive farming people called Yaquis (Hiakim) or Yo'emem (The People).
The Yaquis were well accustomed to the many parts of North America. By 552 AD, Yaquis were living in family groups along the Yaqui River (Yoem Vatwe) north to the Gila River, where they gathered wild desert foods, hunted game and cultivated corn, beans, and squash. Yaquis traded native foods, furs, shells, salt, and other goods with many indigenous groups of central North America. Among these groups are the Shoshone, the Comanche, the Pueblos, the Pimas, the Aztecs, and the Toltec. Yaquis roamed extensively in pre-Columbian times and sometimes settled among other native groups like the Zunis.
It is said, "We had been told in a revelation from Heaven, that God had given to the Yaquis a homeland around the Yaqui River." The Yaquis trained themselves to fight, withstand pain, and die if necessary to protect God-given land and family life. By 1414, the Yaquis were organized into autonomous, yet unified, cultural and military groups.
In 1533, the Yaquis saw the first white men: a Spanish military expedition searching for slaves. The Spanish who initiated warfare were soundly defeated, but took thousands of Yaqui lives. Between 1608 and 1610 the Spanish repeatedly attacked the Yaqui people. The Yaquis proved they could raise a fighting force of 7,000 within a few hours to successfully defend Yaqui land and cultural integrity.
Nevertheless, the Yaquis preferred peace. They asked the Jesuits to enter Yaqui villages to do missionary work and economic development. Most of the 60,000 Yaquis settled into eight sacred towns or "pueblos" and built churches: La Navidad del Senor de Vikam, Santa Rosa de Vahkom, La Asuncion de Nuestra Senora de Rahum, Espiritu Santo (Ko'okoim), Santa Barbara de Wiivisim, San Ignacio de Torim, San Miguel de Veenem, and La Santisima Trinidad de Potam.
Silver was discovered in the Yaqui River Valley around 1684. The Spanish, who treasured the silver stone, began moving into the area, began taking sacred Yaqui land, and treated the Yaqui people disrespectfully.
In 1740, the Yaqui allied with the neighboring Mayo tribe to force the Spanish out of the God-given Indian lands. For the next 190 years, the Yaqui people continued to fight the Spanish, and then the Mexicans (after they won their independence from Spain).
Juan Banderas was one Yaqui leader who tried to unite the Mayo, Opata, and Pima tribes with the Yaqui tribe in attempt to force the Mexicans out of Indian country. He was caught with an Opata chief in 1833 and was executed.
By this time, the Yaqui people had suffered greatly. Many Yaquis left the Rio Yaqui area to fight in the Vakatetteve Mountains; others relocated to Yaqui communities in Arizona. Many more died in battles or were executed. In 1868, 600 Yaqui men, women, and children were captured near Vahkom Pueblo by Mexican state and federal troops. Their arms (bows and arrows and rifles) were taken, and 450 were locked in a church. During the night, the church was shelled. 120 of the people inside were massacred. But still, the Yaquis continued to believe in and fight for the right to land, autonomy, and freedom from harassment.
The Mexican government tried various tactics to defeat the Yaquis. Many were killed. Mexican troops would occupy Yaqui pueblos to keep watch over them. Yaquis were also deported to work as slaves in many distant areas of Mexico, as Yucatan, Oaxaca, Vera Cruz, Mexico City, and Guadalajara. The deportation of Yaquis extended past the borders of Mexico to include Bolivia, the islands of the Caribbean, and the United States.
The Yaquis continued to resist subjugation. By 1887, the Mayo tribe had stopped fighting. Smallpox disease had killed off many members of the Yaqui tribe so that only 4,000 Yaquis remained in the Rio Yaqui area. There were yet Yaqui who continued to battle the Mexicans. These were led by Cajeme, meaning "He Who Does Not Drink", and Juan Maldonado, who was also called Tetabiakte, "Rolling Stone". The Yaquis in Arizona sent guns and supplies to help the battle.
Significant Yaqui relocation occurred from the United States to Sonora and from Sonora to the United States during the 1880s. In 1897, a peace treaty was signed at Ortiz, Sonora between the Yaqui people and the Mexican government. But, after two years, war and deportation of Yaquis continued.
Yaqui families lived in the Gila and Santa Cruz River valleys since time immemorial. Around the turn of the century, these families, encouraged by farmers, politicians, and internal preferences, began moving into larger communities. Guadalupe took early form in 1880. Old Pascua Village was established in 1903. The Sonoran Governor Izabal had a policy to arrest and deport both peaceful and rebel Yaquis. This forced Yaquis to relocate to the Arizona communities and to join old family groups already in residence. Many Yaqui families moved to escape the violence of the 1910-1920 Mexican Revolution.
In 1916, Mexico had a constitutional governor named Adolpho de la Huerta, who was one-quarter Yaqui. He made the first attempts to restore Yaqui land and stop the bloodshed. But, the next president, Alvaro Obregon, changed the policy, and the Yaqui-Mexican wars continued.
The last Indian battle with the U.S. Cavalry happened on January 8, 1918, at Arivaca. Troop E of the Tenth Cavalry, intercepted a group of American Yaquis on their way to render aid to Yaquis of Sonora, who were in the midst of unrelenting war. The Yaquis fought their last major battle at Cerro del Gallo (Hill of the Rooster) in 1927. They were defeated physically, and Mexican garrisons were established in all Yaqui pueblos and villages. But, even now, Yaquis say that morally, they are still undefeated.
In 1939, Mexican President Cardenas changed the attitude about the Yaquis. He granted the Yaqui tribe official recognition and title to their land.
The autonomous Arizona villages became larger, and by 1952, were surrounded by urban communities. In 1964, with the aid of Congressman Morris K. Udall, the Pascua Yaquis were recipients of 202 acres of desert land where Indian identity and sovereignty can be asserted and maintained.
On September 18, 1978, the Pascua Yaqui Tribe of Arizona became federally recognized: the Pascua Pueblo Pueblo of the Pascua Yaqui Indian Reservation officially came "into being". The Pascua Yaquis have a status similar to other Indian tribes of the United States. This status makes the Yaqui eligible for specific services due to trust responsibility that the United States offers Native American peoples who have suffered land loss.
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