Has anyone else started out as pro immigration reform and had second thoughts after reading so many posts..
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I have changed my views since the immigration issue started a little through talking with immigration professionals and doing my own research. What people post on the Internet, or what an idiot on TV has to say, is really worthless junk to me. I did a college research paper for my composition class not too long ago, and it was on immigration. All of my beliefs are based on information I have actually investigated, and every chance I have of talking to someone who knows about the issue, I do it. The "facts" and statistics can easily be manipulated, so unless you are a gullible person, you shouldn't rely on all of them too much. This of course excludes all official statistics.
That being said, I have been drawn away form the liberal, pro-open-borders side a little more towards the anti illegal side, but people still criticize me from both sides. You can't please everyone.
You want to really see what illegal immigrants think of America just look at this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubonmderv...
This really shows were their loyalty stands.
I started out as pro-Amensty... in 1986. Then I lived with what it actually did: attract 12 million more illegals.
I'm against repeating that mistake.
Well I am glad you have jumped off the fence into the right side of the yard.
GOTTA STOP THIS BILL
You see this is exactly why people from different countries hate us. Because of ego centric ideas like that. Every single american including native americans are immagrants but once you have established yourself here you can't provide anyone else with the american dream you sicken me
I believe this country was founded by the sons and daughters of immigrants for the sons and daughters of immigrants.
The world is a much bigger place now and we need better plans in place to organize the flow of people into the country.
However, violence should never be tolerated, especially against peace-loving people who arrive on our soil simply to improve the lives of themselves and their families.
so the ignorants brainwash you ? I'm sorry but you are as easy as it can get!!
The Minutemen are no more violent than the illegals they watch out for. These people were trying to get a message across, because OUR government wasn't and still isn't doing it's job.
You have to remember these people LIVE on the border they have seen the ungodly amount of illegals coming through their property and there back yards. I feel for anyone living in a border state now it has got to be hell to be on the front lines of this invasion.
We are not anti reform it is just that we DON"T need reform, nothing is wrong with our laws NOW, reform is just a fancy way of saying "you are going to change your laws to appease the lawbreakers"
It isn't necessary it is just more smoke and mirrors from our government. THANK GOD FOR THE INTERNET OR THESE TRAITORS IN OFFICE WOULD HAVE SLIPPED THIS BY LONG AGO.
THERE WILL BE NO AMNESTY!
JUST ENFORCE THE LAWS ON THE BOOKS!
Well, that takes courage. The truth isn't always pretty. I woke up more than a year ago when the illegals were having marches. They seemed so entitled and as I read their signs and saw them flying their flags it didn't sit right with me. For me this isn't a race issue, a class issue or anything else but an issue of right or wrong.
edit - you mean this video? http://youtube.com/watch?v=y9d-5avhtvm...
this is a good one: http://youtube.com/watch?v=9fiea9ub0ya...
Wow, this is sad. You actually think that the antis here are telling the truth? They say so much b.s that maybe, just maybe, 5% of what they say is truth.
penarol
With all your posts full of racist hatred...you are EXACTLY the type to she is talking about...duh.do you think reasonable people actually support you?
BTW, Metro...you have exactly zero credibility here anymore, why do you think everybody slams you every post you make. You would have been better off starting under a new ID...at least you could have "started fresh".
Glad you woke up vegas,it's good to hear it when people realize what's really happening.
Now that you're on our side, please take action. Call, email, write, fax your representative today!
The Minutemen do not do anything violent to the illegal aliens...many times they have even GIVEN WATER AND AID TO STRANDED ILLEGAL ALIENS! They call the border control and let them deal with the illegal aliens..they do not lay a hand on the illegal aliens. The only OTHER big thing that they do is speak out AGAINST THE NORTH AMERICAN UNION. That is what they do...and protest, but that is not against the law. They have been made to be something that they aren't to try to get people to look at them evil.
I find it very hard to take "sides" when there are valid points for both sides. I try not to label myself when it comes to the issue (though I do swing towards the pro side). I find it sad that you felt the need to out yourself instead of just answering ALL the questions with smart answers and your special insight as you have been known to do.
It's a little rough over on this side dear. But you'll be just fine, I'm here. ;) I don't hate them either. They're mere pawns just like the rest of us. I told you old people are the best untapped resource for knowledge. Plus they like it.
I was originally when the subject was first brought up by Congress pro-reform because I knew something had to be done, I had some trust in the Republicans backing it, and I knew some effort had to be made with the Democrats to pass it and then maybe get their cooperation on another topic like SS reform as a pay back for this reform. I quickly realized the democrats were going to only look at this bill and forget any help on another bill and then as they kept loading up immigration reform with more and more trash I gave up on it and became very anti-reform. I really never let the postings here set me one way or the other because I wasn't on this site much when I was making my view up.
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