How do Illegal Immigration pay taxes?
I keep hearing they pay taxes just like Americans, but how do they do it?
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Forgery, counterfeiting are what alot of them do.and to boot, they even use that fake SS# to try to open credit...and in alot of cases succeed.one bunch down here in Miami got busted for a counterfeiting ring by making SS cards and selling them at 500.00 a card...with the amount of illegals arriving here daily that buffoon was making tons of money...of course he wasnt paying taxes on it either as it was a criminal act...but thats how alot of it is done..also some get what is called a ITIN number.
Illegal is Illegal, what the hell can't congress understand about that. Cut off their water and they will go home, No Jobs, No Welfare, No Rights, for Illegals.
they pay a little sales tax and thats all, they steal way more than that on the way out of the store.
Under the table, so nobody will find out. Your welcome
OH, I'm glad you ask here's how: first they have to go to a lot of things, then they finally go to any IRS, office and request an TAX ID no, that is similar to an soc. sec. one, then they pay the taxes, and they can not work with the TAX ID no, and what is more outrageous, is the fact that people sometimes don't want to hire you because you are illegal, but the goverment has that tricky ID TAX, just to MILK OUT ALL INMIGRANTS, Don't you think it's nice?
Most illegal aliens work and pay some type of payroll taxes. They are prohibited by law from receiving welfare. They take jobs that should be held by welfare recipients, but as these people are a protected class we don't even mention anything about them.
Many steal SS#s in order to work (breaking another law). Now they pay social security and medicare taxes. However, since over 80% of illegals have less than a high school diploma, they are getting low wages.
So, with low wages, they pay no payroll taxes, but they pop out a few kids so that they can get the child tax credit (for those who do pay a little, this gets them all of it back) and the earned income credit (which is given to them even if they have no federal tax burden)
So say that they earn 40,000 and pay 7.25% in social security and medicare or $2,900 for the year. Then they claim the Earned Income Tax Credit of around $4,000, so they get back $1,100 more than they paid in. So if you are wondering where YOUR tax dollars are going. They are going to pay some illegal immigrant a tax refund which is more than they paid.
Kind of makes you feel like loading up a bus with them and driving their criminal @sses home, doesn't it.
they use someone elses number and the person whose number that belongs to ends up paying the taxes otherwise it is not paid, or only a token amount is paid through the deductions and the rightful person of the number has to pay the differances.
According to the IRS the person who belongs to that number is responsible for all the taxes whether the name being used is correct or not.
Because the name doesn't match the number I don't get the Social Insecurity credits.
I know because that happened to me and it took over ten years of fighting it and the government still took my bank account and garneshed my wages intill it was paid , while the illegals were still racking up more fines and taxes against me. over twenty years now and I'm still paying for them.and still it is growing
They use this thing called an "ITIN" number to do their taxes.
Well if you don't have papers and use invented SS# or borrowed SS# and never claim them, then you are paying taxes. They pay taxes on everything they buy. Lets not forget ITIN# where non-citizens can use to claim taxes. How about undocument ppl that buy homes and there are many in Illinois, California, Texas, Arizona and many places in the US that pay property taxes. Does this not count as paying taxes??
The Costs of Illegal Immigration
Illegals Cost Feds $10 Billion a Year; Amnesty Would Nearly Triple Cost
Illegal alien households are estimated to use $2,700 a year more in services than they pay in taxes, creating a total fiscal burden of nearly $10.4 billion on the federal budget in 2002.
Among the largest federal costs: Medicaid ($2.5 billion); treatment for the uninsured ($2.2 billion); food assistance programs ($1.9 billion); the federal prison and court systems ($1.6 billion); and federal aid to schools ($1.4 billion).
If illegal aliens were legalized and began to pay taxes and use services like legal immigrants with the same education levels, the estimated annual fiscal deficit at the federal level would increase from $2,700 per household to nearly $7,700, for a total federal deficit of $29 billion.
With nearly two-third of illegals lacking a high school diploma, the primary reason they create a fiscal deficit is their low education levels and resulting low incomes and tax payments — not their legal status or their unwillingness to work.
Amnesty increases costs because illegals would still be largely unskilled, and thus their tax payments would continue to be very modest, but once legalized they would be able to access many more government services.
The fact that legal immigrants with little schooling are a fiscal drain on federal coffers does not mean that legal immigrants overall are a drain. Many legal immigrants are highly skilled.
Because many of the costs are due to their U.S.-born children, who are awarded U.S. citizenship at birth, barring illegals themselves from federal programs will not significantly reduce costs.
Although they create a net drain on the federal government, the average illegal household pays more than $4,200 a year in federal taxes, for a total of nearly $16 billion.
However, they impose annual costs of more than $26.3 billion, or about $6,950 per illegal household.
About 43 percent, or $7 billion, of the federal taxes illegals pay go to Social Security and Medicare.
Employers do not see the costs associated with less-educated immigrant workers because the costs are spread out among all taxpayers.
BINGO-they are commiting ID theft or else they have fake ID's.
If they are commiting ID theft, they need jail time and deported. Their excuses are that they are contributing to someone's social security and the immigrant will not get it. But also, then they destroy someone else's credit with the social security number as well.
If they are using fake ID's they need arrested as well because anyone else gets arrested for using fake ID's.
They use the excuse of paying taxes but forget about their crimes.
ALSO-they may THINK they are paying taxes because their checks reflect that. But remember the businesses put out their checks and may be taking out for taxes, yet they know the employees are illegal and they are not actually paying these taxes. See what I am saying?
There are a lot of ways around the tax issues, since a employer is hiring illegals an knows it ,then withholds tax's on a ? ID then does he report the with holdings or not? Makes more money. Maybe someday they will get caught not a pretty picture.
Let's do it like the Mexicans do it:
THERE WILL BE NO SPECIAL BILINGUAL PROGRAMS IN THE SCHOOLS.
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THERE WILL BE NO SPECIAL BALLOTS FOR ELECTIONS.
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ALL GOVERNMENT BUSINESS WILL BE CONDUCTED IN OUR LANGUAGE.
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FOREIGNERS WILL NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO VOTE NO MATTER HOW
LONG THEY ARE HERE.
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FOREIGNERS WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO HOLD POLITICAL OFFICE.
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FOREIGNERS WILL NOT BE A BURDEN TO THE TAXPAYERS.
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NO WELFARE, NO FOOD STAMPS, NO HEALTH CARE OR OTHER
GOVERNMENT ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS.
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FOREIGNERS CAN INVEST IN THIS COUNTRY BUT IT MUST BE AN
AMOUNT EQUAL TO 40,000 TIMES THE DAILY MINIMUM WAGE.
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IF FOREIGNERS DO COME AND WANT TO BUY LAND, THAT WILL BE
OKAY. BUT OPTIONS WILL BE RESTRICTED....
YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED WATERFRONT PROPERTY. THAT IS RESERVED
FOR CITIZENS NATURALLY BORN INTO THIS COUNTRY.
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FOREIGNERS MAY NOT PROTEST; NO DEMONSTRATIONS; NO WAVING A
FOREIGN FLAG; NO POLITICAL ORGANIZING; NO BAD-MOUTHING OUR
PRESIDENT OR HIS POLICIES.
IF YOU DO, YOU WILL BE SENT HOME.
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IF YOU DO COME TO THIS COUNTRY ILLEGALLY, YOU WILL BE HUNTED
DOWN AND SENT STRAIGHT TO JAIL.
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HARSH, YOU SAY?...
The above laws happen to be the Immigration Laws of MEXICO.
Uh THEY DON'T!
Fake documentation, ss#. The employers know they are hiring an illegal alien and they help them to get paid. From what I've gathered, the employer has a check cut for them and then cashes it, if the illegal doesn't have an account. Although, there are certain banks out there that will not require a ss# to open an account.
most Mexican get a regular pay check. They take out taxes and much of which is kept. They pay in ss and can not get anything back. So, many of the Mexicans help support our ss.The people against the immargration reform call in a ammesty bill. How can they call it ammesty, when it inculdes a $5000 fine. Do you know how many americans have never had $5000. How many americans would be going to Mexico if thing were reverse. You want to send people to Mexico. I agree,but you are wanting to send the wrong people. The majority of Mexicans are good people and good workers. We should send all the people in America that don't want to work and always cause problems to Mexico.
Most do not as the employer pays them under the table. Some who believe they are paying taxes are probably having the taxes taken from their wages but the employer either keeps the withholding or converts it to his own taxes and receives SS benefits from it. I know of one case where a legal employer was paying unemployment taxes (approximately 5% on the dollar) on his two sons who did not work for him at all but would file for unemployment benefits every year and draw the maximum benefit ($320. per week). Why would we expect an illegal to pay legal fees; they have already shown their attitude toward compliance with the law; just as bad is the employer who should be ensuring the employee is legal and paying the taxes on the employee!
Duh! they don't, they get paid as we call it under the table straight cash for a days work better known as day laborers.so there is no paper trail on them what so ever why do you think they country is in such and up roar now over illegal immigration because of exactly what you asked with this question.
Our state and Gov still get their $. Illegals claim married with 5-8 dependents so that less taxes are taken out of their check. Then, at the end of the year most will not file. Notice how it takes our IRS 10 years to catch up with them so that they don't have to pay them unearned benefits. They may not have to pay much in taxes, but they often pay someone else's child support.
All they need is a social security card to get a legitimit job. I can tell you where in Houston to go to get a phoney ss. The proper payroll taxes are witheld by the employer but they never file income taxes since the ss# is fake. If they are paid under the table, all of this is a mute point.
they steal id's from legal citizens.
they use the same stolen SS# over and over...fake name and address..
They probably mean sales tax and property tax, etc.
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