Question for those opposed to undocumented workers?
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Where do you people get your statistics? Ok so there is 95% this 72% that...but where are your statistics for the ones NOT causing these problems? If you 12 million illegals and your showing percentages like this I want to know the percentages of the ones who are decent. Cuz I can throw you tons of percentages of lazy @ss Americans who are in prisons, on americas most wanted and such! Lets not try and blame illegals for the only cause of prison population, murders, taxes and such.
My ancestors didn't murder or steal at all to get into this country.
Do you really think all the illegal Mexican immigrants come here to pick lettuce?
Here are some facts you should know:
40% of all workers in L.A. County (L.A. County has 10 million people) are working for cash and not paying taxes. This was because they are predominantly illegal immigrants, working without a green card.
95% of warrants for murder in Los Angeles are for illegal aliens.
75% of people on the most wanted list in Los Angeles are illegal aliens.
Over 2/3’s of all births in Los Angeles County are to illegal alien Mexicans on Medi-Cal whose births were paid for by taxpayers.
Nearly 25% of all inmates in California detention centers are Mexican nationals here illegally.
Over 300,000 illegal aliens in Los Angeles County are living in garages.
The FBI reports half of all gang members in Los Angeles are most likely illegal aliens from south of the border.
Nearly 60% of all occupants of HUD properties are illegal.
21 radio stations in L.A. are Spanish speaking.
In L.A.County 5.1 million people speak English. 3.9 million speak Spanish (10.2 million people in L.A.County).
(All 10 from the Los Angeles Times)
Less than 2% of illegal aliens are picking our crops but 29% are on welfare.
http://www.cis.org/
Over 70% of the United States annual population growth (and over 90% of California, Florida, and New York) results from immigration.
The cost of illegal immigration to the American taxpayer in 1997 was a NET (after subtracting taxes immigrants pay) $70 BILLION a year, [Professor Donald Huddle, Rice University].
The lifetime fiscal impact (taxes paid minus services used) for the average adult Mexican immigrant is a NEGATIVE .
29% of inmates in federal prisons are illegal aliens
If anyone is going to come to America you need to do it legally. I have friends who came over legally and got naturalized the "old fashion" way. You don't have to "swim" over to come. Do it the right way not the wrong!!
I would give you my thoughts if I understood what you were saying.
First off.they are ILLEGAL ALIENS.many of them just spit out babies and DO NOT WORK...
Second off...you do not know my ancestors.you know nothing about me...
Apples and tomatoes my friend.
Murdering, stealing, ancestors? I'm sorry, but I don' t see the connection. If you are referring to Americans, Mexicans are certainly making up for it now.
What about the drug cartels causing problems at the border, and the fact that border guards are told to just let them go? Drugs have been coming into this country from Mexico for many years. How many people have they killed by distributing drugs here ? Look at gang warfare here in the U.S.. What's the difference? It's just my thoughts, nothing personal.
I know my ancestors did not sneak in – the came in as refugees and went through Ellis Island. Life was not easy for them but they did it the legal way.
I would not reward an illegal for anything. Its like rewarding a child for stealing candy – they really needed it they were hungry – here is some money…..
It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has exceeded our humanity. - Albert Einstein
The blame game in the context of history is irrelevant. Why? We're living in the here and now. It is true that if you don't learn from history you're destined to repeat it, but frequently relying on "your ancestors did this, I'm a victim waaah" is a sorry crutch and keeps society from making any beneficial progress.
My ancestors did not murder or steal anything and some even laid down their lives during our wars ranging from the civil to vietnam. Myself having served in Iraq I ask you this. How many illegal would be willing to give their lives for America? or do they just want to suck off of it like leeches?
Tomatoes and Cheap Labor
This should make everyone think, be you Democrat, Republican or Independent
From a California school teacher - - -"As you listen to the news about the student protests over illegal immigration, there are some things that you should be aware of:
I am in charge of the English-as-a-second-language department at a large southern California high school which is designated a Title 1 school, meaning that its students average lower socioeconomic and income levels.
Most of the schools you are hearing about, South Gate High, Bell Gardens , Huntington Park , etc., where these students are protesting, are also Title 1 schools.
Title 1 schools are on the free breakfast and free lunch program. When I say free breakfast, I'm not talking a glass of milk and roll -- but a full breakfast and cereal bar with fruits and juices that would make a Marriott proud. The waste of this food is monumental, with trays and trays of it being dumped in the trash uneaten. (OUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK)
I estimate that well over 50% of these students are obese or at least moderately overweight. About 75% or more DO have cell phones. The school also provides day care centers for the unwed teenage pregnant girls (some as young as 13) so they can attend class without the inconvenience of having to arrange for babysitters or having family watch their kids. (OUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK)
I was ordered to spend $700,000 on my department or risk losing funding for the upcoming year even though there was little need for anything; my budget was already substantial. I ended up buying new computers for the computer learning center, half of which, one month later, have been carved with graffiti by the appreciative students who obviously feel humbled and grateful to have a free education in America . (OUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK)
I have had to intervene several times for young and substitute teachers whose classes consist of many illegal immigrant students here in the country less then 3 months who raised so much hell with the female teachers, calling them "Putas" whores and throwing things that the teachers were in tears.
Free medical, free education, free food, day care etc., etc., etc. Is it any wonder they feel entitled to not only be in this country but to demand rights, privileges and entitlements?
To those who want to point out how much these illegal immigrants contribute to our society because they LIKE their gardener and housekeeper and they like to pay less for tomatoes: spend some time in the real world of illegal immigration and see the TRUE costs.
Higher insurance, medical facilities closing, higher medical costs, more crime, lower standards of education in our schools, overcrowding, new diseases etc., etc, etc. For me, I'll pay more for tomatoes.
We need to wake up. The guest worker program will be a disaster because we won't have the guts to enforce it.
Does anyone in their right mind really think they will voluntarily leave and return?
There are many hardworking Hispanic/American citizens that contribute to our country and many that I consider my true friends. We should encourage and accept those Hispanics who have done it the right and legal way.
It does, however, have everything to do with culture: A third-world culture that does not value education, that accepts children getting pregnant and dropping out of school by 15 and that refuses to assimilate, and an American culture that has become so weak and worried about "politically correct" that we don't have the will to do anything about it.
If this makes your blood boil, as it did mine, forward this to everyone you know.
CHEAP LABOR?
Isn't that what the whole immigration issue is about?
Business doesn't want to pay a decent wage.
Consumers don't want expensive produce.
Government will tell you Americans don't want the jobs.
But the bottom line is cheap labor. The phrase "cheap labor" is a myth, a farce, and a lie. there is no such thing as "cheap labor."
Take, for example, an illegal alien with a wife and five children. He takes a job for $5.00 or $6.00/hour. At that wage, with six dependents, he pays no income tax, yet at the end of the year, if he files an Income Tax Return, he gets an "earned income credit" of up to $3,200 free.
He qualifies for Section 8 housing and subsidized rent.
He qualifies for food stamps.
He qualifies for free (no deductible, no co-pay) health care.
His children get free breakfasts and lunches at school.
He requires bilingual teachers and books.
He qualifies for relief from high energy bills.
If they are or become, aged, blind or disabled, they qualify for SSI. Once qualified for SSI they can qualify for Medicare. All of this is at (our) taxpayer's expense.
He doesn't worry about car insurance, life insurance, or homeowners insurance.
Taxpayers provide Spanish language signs, bulletins and printed material.
He and his family receive the equivalent of $20.00 to $30.00/hour in benefits.
Working Americans are lucky to have $5.00 or $6.00/hour left after paying their bills and his.
The American taxpayers also pay for increased crime, graffiti and trash clean-up.
Cheap labor? YEAH RIGHT! Wake up people. THESE ARE THE QUESTIONS WE SHOULD BE ADDRESSING TO THE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES FOR EITHER PARTY. 'AND WHEN THEY LIE TO US AND DON'T DO AS THEY SAY, WE SHOULD REPLACE THEM AT ONCE!'
THIS HAS GOT TO BE PASSED ALONG TO AS MANY AS POSSIBLE OR WE WILL ALL GO DOWN THE DRAIN BECAUSE A FEW DON'T CARE.
There are legal ways to come to this country.
It is disgusting for people who come here legally, and pay taxes, obey the law, and LEARN THE LANGUAGE, that people who come here just to make money under the table, abuse the social security system and can barely speak English are benefiting from their crime.
Get over yourself. The strong survive. The conquest of America was nothing but evolution in action.
My parents were born here, my grandparents came in LEGALLY, first thru Canda then into the United States. They were not murdering/stealing people, and I resent what you are implying.
Maybe the undocumented workers are murderers/thieves or drug dealers, then again maybe not.
No matter if they are undocumented they enter illegally and broke our laws, should they be hugged and kiss and go on there way, no send them back.
But wait, if one of these undocumented workers decide to steal your car or break into your house and steal from you, what are you going to do, they are just breaking another set of laws. I guess 2 negatives make a postive.
My ancestors came here legally.
Even if they didn't, does that excuse illegal immigration now?
We wouldn't have an illegal immigration problem in this country if Mexico wasn't corrupt and would make their country a desirable place for it's citizens to live. Mexico would rather get wealthy off of the backs of people stealing their way into the United States. It is much like a leach sucking the life's blood out of its victim. Our Government needs to wake up and quit being so politically correct. We as legal citizens need to be the ones protesting as we are the ones paying the bill. It doesn't matter who you are, we are a country of laws and that is what has made us strong. When we throw our laws under the train we will become a country in ruin.
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