Do you know that many Europeans came here illegally and our government did not deport them because..?
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Hey - did you know that we used to have black slaves? You know that women weren't allowed to vote?
Things change ... for a reason ... and hopefully for the better.
Lay off of Europeans. You are bordering on ignorant insult.
And? So? OK? What's your point. I'm against illegal immigration from ALL countries.
I suggest you do the same. Read about Ellis Island. That would be a good start.
No I didn't know that.Thanks for the info.You just changed my mind.Amnesty FOR ALL!!
No, we don't need to read more before we say something about illegal immigration. Illegal immigrants from any country are not excused, period. They are all lawbreakers and our government has committed treason against its citizens by failing to enforce our immigration laws. Illegal is still illegal no matter how you look at it. Lawbreakers are lawbreakers and the law is the law. Justice is supposed to be blind. Enforce the laws.
Actually thats not true. They came here on boats to elis island and became naturalized legaly. Here is a nice fact though, if a potential immagrint had disease or something of that nature. They were sent back to their country!...lol...you don't know what you are talking about...
Correction, their kids automatically become citizens. Another thing, where is your proof of this? Are you talking about way back like 200 years ago? If so, then the immigration laws we have now were not in effect back then. It looks to me like you are the one that needs to read up on immigration. And while your at it, read up on illegal immigration and the effects it has on this country. Do a comparison between the two. Once you figure it out, e-mail me and you might be worthy of debating with.
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You're right - illegal aliens do come, and have come from all countries.
But you also need to realize how many Europeans in history have been sent back because they were pregnant without a husband present, blind, or had skin disorders - it was a common practice at Ellis Island. Even if there was a language or communication barrier, some were sent back as being unintelligent. It depended upon the mood or skills of the officials processing them.
Did they get on Welfare?
Did they fly their flags in difiance?
Did they smuggle drugs in when they came?
Do you really think all the illegal Mexican immigrants come here to pick lettuce?
Here are some facts you should know:
40% of all workers in L.A. County (L.A. County has 10 million people) are working for cash and not paying taxes. This was because they are predominantly illegal immigrants, working without a green card.
95% of warrants for murder in Los Angeles are for illegal aliens.
75% of people on the most wanted list in Los Angeles are illegal aliens.
Over 2/3’s of all births in Los Angeles County are to illegal alien Mexicans on Medi-Cal whose births were paid for by taxpayers.
Nearly 25% of all inmates in California detention centers are Mexican nationals here illegally.
Over 300,000 illegal aliens in Los Angeles County are living in garages.
The FBI reports half of all gang members in Los Angeles are most likely illegal aliens from south of the border.
Nearly 60% of all occupants of HUD properties are illegal.
21 radio stations in L.A. are Spanish speaking.
In L.A.County 5.1 million people speak English. 3.9 million speak Spanish (10.2 million people in L.A.County).
(All 10 from the Los Angeles Times)
Less than 2% of illegal aliens are picking our crops but 29% are on welfare.
http://www.cis.org/
Over 70% of the United States annual population growth (and over 90% of California, Florida, and New York) results from immigration.
The cost of illegal immigration to the American taxpayer in 1997 was a NET (after subtracting taxes immigrants pay) $70 BILLION a year, [Professor Donald Huddle, Rice University].
The lifetime fiscal impact (taxes paid minus services used) for the average adult Mexican immigrant is a NEGATIVE .
29% of inmates in federal prisons are illegal aliens
Tomatoes and Cheap Labor
This should make everyone think, be you Democrat, Republican or Independent
From a California school teacher - - -"As you listen to the news about the student protests over illegal immigration, there are some things that you should be aware of:
I am in charge of the English-as-a-second-language department at a large southern California high school which is designated a Title 1 school, meaning that its students average lower socioeconomic and income levels.
Most of the schools you are hearing about, South Gate High, Bell Gardens , Huntington Park , etc., where these students are protesting, are also Title 1 schools.
Title 1 schools are on the free breakfast and free lunch program. When I say free breakfast, I'm not talking a glass of milk and roll -- but a full breakfast and cereal bar with fruits and juices that would make a Marriott proud. The waste of this food is monumental, with trays and trays of it being dumped in the trash uneaten. (OUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK)
I estimate that well over 50% of these students are obese or at least moderately overweight. About 75% or more DO have cell phones. The school also provides day care centers for the unwed teenage pregnant girls (some as young as 13) so they can attend class without the inconvenience of having to arrange for babysitters or having family watch their kids. (OUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK)
I was ordered to spend $700,000 on my department or risk losing funding for the upcoming year even though there was little need for anything; my budget was already substantial. I ended up buying new computers for the computer learning center, half of which, one month later, have been carved with graffiti by the appreciative students who obviously feel humbled and grateful to have a free education in America . (OUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK)
I have had to intervene several times for young and substitute teachers whose classes consist of many illegal immigrant students here in the country less then 3 months who raised so much hell with the female teachers, calling them "Putas" whores and throwing things that the teachers were in tears.
Free medical, free education, free food, day care etc., etc., etc. Is it any wonder they feel entitled to not only be in this country but to demand rights, privileges and entitlements?
To those who want to point out how much these illegal immigrants contribute to our society because they LIKE their gardener and housekeeper and they like to pay less for tomatoes: spend some time in the real world of illegal immigration and see the TRUE costs.
Higher insurance, medical facilities closing, higher medical costs, more crime, lower standards of education in our schools, overcrowding, new diseases etc., etc, etc. For me, I'll pay more for tomatoes.
We need to wake up. The guest worker program will be a disaster because we won't have the guts to enforce it.
Does anyone in their right mind really think they will voluntarily leave and return?
There are many hardworking Hispanic/American citizens that contribute to our country and many that I consider my true friends. We should encourage and accept those Hispanics who have done it the right and legal way.
It does, however, have everything to do with culture: A third-world culture that does not value education, that accepts children getting pregnant and dropping out of school by 15 and that refuses to assimilate, and an American culture that has become so weak and worried about "politically correct" that we don't have the will to do anything about it.
If this makes your blood boil, as it did mine, forward this to everyone you know.
CHEAP LABOR?
Isn't that what the whole immigration issue is about?
Business doesn't want to pay a decent wage.
Consumers don't want expensive produce.
Government will tell you Americans don't want the jobs.
But the bottom line is cheap labor. The phrase "cheap labor" is a myth, a farce, and a lie. there is no such thing as "cheap labor."
Take, for example, an illegal alien with a wife and five children. He takes a job for $5.00 or $6.00/hour. At that wage, with six dependents, he pays no income tax, yet at the end of the year, if he files an Income Tax Return, he gets an "earned income credit" of up to $3,200 free.
He qualifies for Section 8 housing and subsidized rent.
He qualifies for food stamps.
He qualifies for free (no deductible, no co-pay) health care.
His children get free breakfasts and lunches at school.
He requires bilingual teachers and books.
He qualifies for relief from high energy bills.
If they are or become, aged, blind or disabled, they qualify for SSI. Once qualified for SSI they can qualify for Medicare. All of this is at (our) taxpayer's expense.
He doesn't worry about car insurance, life insurance, or homeowners insurance.
Taxpayers provide Spanish language signs, bulletins and printed material.
He and his family receive the equivalent of $20.00 to $30.00/hour in benefits.
Working Americans are lucky to have $5.00 or $6.00/hour left after paying their bills and his.
The American taxpayers also pay for increased crime, graffiti and trash clean-up.
Cheap labor? YEAH RIGHT! Wake up people. THESE ARE THE QUESTIONS WE SHOULD BE ADDRESSING TO THE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES FOR EITHER PARTY. 'AND WHEN THEY LIE TO US AND DON'T DO AS THEY SAY, WE SHOULD REPLACE THEM AT ONCE!'
THIS HAS GOT TO BE PASSED ALONG TO AS MANY AS POSSIBLE OR WE WILL ALL GO DOWN THE DRAIN BECAUSE A FEW DON'T CARE.
Would love to see your source...
The Government didn't deport because we NEEDED bodies, and if you were (white) healthy and not a criminal you were welcome to get to work. The Government also didn't HAVE such things as Welfare, Social Security, Health Care, etc until after the Great Depression !!
The US Government didn't KEEP immigration records until 1820. Nearly all population growth up to 1830 was by internal increase; about 98.5% of the population was native-born. By 1850, this had shifted to about 90% native-born.
During the 1850's-1952 most Europeans came by ship and landed at two places: Castle Garden Immigration (1855-1890 and Ellis Island (1892-1952) where you went through Immigration control and inspection: if you didn't pass, you were put back on the BOAT and the government didn't pay for it. (there goes your first claim).
Naturalization Act of 1795: "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside" applied ONLY to FREE WHITE persons until the 1870's, and was was interpreted by the Supreme Court in the 1898 case United States v. Wong Kim Ark as covering everyone born in the U.S. regardless of the citizenship of the parents, with the exception of the children of diplomats. SO until AFTER amost 1890, that law didn't APPLY to Mexicans, Asians, or Blacks.
And you didn't "Automatically" become a legal resident and citizen if you had a child... you had to state intention to seek citizenship, have a clean record, often references of moral character... then you spend 3 years working HARD without the vote or rights and became a citizen.
In the 1850's, we had a GRAND TOTAL of 2.5 million immigrants, in the 1930's we had 14 million, and the 1990's we had 19 million... so the ILLEGALS almost exceed the legal immigrants.
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