WHY do people keep believing illegal immigrants do not pay taxes?
And when they go to the hospital they surely get billed and have to pay. they CANNOT apply for Medicare or medicaid, and no illegal has a right to claim wellfare.
If the immigrants were not needed they would not be here. Pure economics, Supply and Demand.!!
So what seems to be the big problem, if the govt knew they were such a "threat" they would "kick them out". The US certainly has the money and resources.
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the only thing i can come out is that they ignore than they actually do pay taxes , they just do not want to accept than they actually pay taxes or they just don't like them so will keep up their lies about this simple fact ...
yes they do pay taxes and they in fact contribute around 7 to 8 billions in taxes to the American economy which they obviously do not claim because they are afraid of deportation ...
the sad thign about this is that the number of billion dollars whihc they have contributed in taxes is prety similar to what we all Americans had spent in the wrongfully planned war in Iraq ( 560 billions in Iraq and 540 billion which they have contributed in the secret stash ) ..
it is also important to mention just like u said that they do in fact pay many other taxes and that their near to 1 trillion dollars does produces so many jobs which obviously would not be there if it wasn't for them ...
so much for they do not pay when they in fact do :D
I don't care if they pay taxes or not, I still want them OUT.
Let them get in line like everyone else.
When you get paid under the table as a good many illegals do they paid no federal tax, state tax, of FDIC taxes. As to paying their hospital bills that is a out and out lie. How many hospital have been shut down because of illegals having anchor babies, and er care. I bet if the welfare rolls were really audited more illgals would be found to be using fake social numbers and receiving aid than not
This is misinformation. They only pay sales tax. If they are paying other taxes, such as property or income, it is by using a stolen or falsified identification card. Perhaps you should research. Many illegal immigrants do receive government assistance, such as healthcare, that is supposed to be provided for citizens with low income.
Ok, if immigrants are getting real paper checks then you are right, taxes are taken out... but most, from what I have personaly seen get paid under the table cash... no taxes. And whenever illegals go to the hospital they go to the ER's and have to be seen by a doctor then they just provide the wrong name and are "charged" but how do you charge someone who gives the wrong name. Your other "arguments" are just crazy... how could you take 12 million people out of a country when you cannot find the terrorists in Iraq?
Because they just want to justify their hate. No matter how many times they are proven wrong they come up with this lame @ss argument. It is a fact that illegals pay taxes but they choose to ignore it.
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Tell them girl. like i said ignoramuses on this site.
Their net loss is $19,000.00
After what we give them, they still have a net loss of $19,000 per year per illegal.
people just listen to what they want to hear. Mostly the uneducated come up with this asumptions and feed it to others of their level and from there it spreads and think if theu get rid of something the problems will go away which is not true problems will always come out of something and people will find it easier to point fingers rather than to look at the big picture
How do they pay income tax and social security tax? You have to have a SSN or TIN to pay those taxes and most illegals don't have them. In my experience most illegal work in jobs that will pay them cash as opposed to a payroll check to avoid having to get these numbers. Which means that not only are the illegals not paying income/social security taxes but neither are the employers paying social security/medicare taxes.
Hospitals can not refuse medical attention to anyone, so it is possible to get medical assistance without paying.
I agree they do pay sales taxes in most cases.
Because they DON'T! I have seen it time and time again. Why do you think employers like them? Because there is less money which is going out...they don't have to claim them because they are being paid UNDER the table!
Saw an illegal alien neighbor lose their house because they didn't pay county taxes on it.
What "threat" are you talking about? Like Al Qaida and Bush ignoring what they were doing for 9 months, even after being warned? The Government is only out for themselves and they could care less about the middle class.
Breaking news! Migrant and faded Blue Collar employees can not be blamed no more for handouts unlike stereo...
...types claim to be the case!
Common sense and good understanding of physical fitness ought to suggest that in order to be able to do such hectic work one would need to be in good health and fitness. Therefore who really is clogging up the unemployment lines,welfare agencies(when really farm workers are able to eat all the greens,veggies,fruits,H2O,WHIL... EXERCISING,). As for the emergency room congestion in the United States?
Finally the straw that broke the camels(and illicit behaviors) backs and(Broke Back Mountain). Will be from now on watched alot closer to make sure everyone (pretty boys,fatsos,) get off their duffs and pitch in to the country that they now want credit for.
You are living in a fantasy world girl.Please read up on things and have correct information before you put something you obviously know nothing about on Y/A.
Only a fool would think most immigrants pay taxes on income other than sale taxes. Not only do almost all illegals NOT pay taxes, their employers save much by also avoiding taxes by reduced claims of income. Some contractors use many illegals and NOT claim income on the construction.
And inexpensive lobor? I have seen them rip off many Americans with POOR labor and high prices.
an estimated 2/3 of illegal immigrants pay taxes. Even after the taxes they pay, they still cost the federal government over 10 billion dollars annually. When they go to the hospital, they do not have to pay upfront. A hospital cannot refuse treatment to anyone, even a person with no money. They can and do claim welfare. Among the largest costs are Medicaid ($2.5 billion); treatment for the uninsured ($2.2 billion); food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches ($1.9 billion)
You are claiming that an illegal that shows up in an ER for a 10K baby delivery or 15K broken arm is settling the bill without any taxpayer assistance?
From what I have seen the income taxes are not paid. They Claim the maximum amount of dependents and they dont file their year end taxes so it never gets paid!
they´re ignorants
Illegal immigrants can't pay income tax, or if it is deducted from their cheque, it goes in a general account. The government is supplied by the employer with a incorrect ss number. The employer is notified that the number does not match and to get the right one. The employee then has to quit or he'll get pulled in by immigration.
The other way to do this is to do day lobour, getting paid daily. Another way is to take a dead persons idendity for your own. Another way would be to just steal someones idendity.
No matter which way they go they are illegals.
when we as American citizens accepted our citizenship at birth, and continue to accept it we make a choice to abide by the rules, laws, and rates of pay for our jobs and such. at any time if we dislike how we are being treated or the laws or ways our gov passes or enforces, we have the choice to accept it or leave. we can denounce our citizenship if you really dislike our country. so don't point the fingers at the illegal residents cause they also accept some laws and rules and treatments and wages. if they don't like it they may leave. my point is if you don't like the way things are going and you can't get our gov to change it then you leave. don't be made at other cultures or people for coming here legal or illegally cause you feel they get away with things if you think they get it so good just leave yourself and come back illegally and see if you like that.
Most illegals get paid in cash, therefore no taxes, furthermore if you go to any welfare office you will see just how many are actually on welfare, medicaid, and food stamps, if you are pregnant and indigent you can get state funded medical without any proof of citizenship! If the illegals were not here employers would have to pay higher wages for American labor, that's how they steal jobs(it;s not that they are doing work that Americans will not do, it's that they are taking wages that Americans cannot afford to take!!)
You say that they don't have the right to claim welfare, I say they don't have the right to be here, but the govt listens to their "demands" for more rights. I say they have no rights period!!!!
Please read the following very carefully and note:"We the people of the US"= Us citizens
"for ourselves and our posterity"=only US citizens and future citizens(our children to more precise)
"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America"
Illegals do not support "domestic tranquility" they are causing domestic unrest, furthermore with a porous border we will never have "Homeland security!!!
The illegal immigrants are not here because they are needed. Their presence in the U.S. is overlooked by authorities because certain industries increase their profit margins by exploiting them. They are not hired because their employers are concerned for their welfare; they are hired because U.S. businesses can use and abuse them... Fact of life.
When illegals go to a hospital they may get billed - but that doesn't mean that they pay the bill! Poor U.S. citizens do the same thing when they have no medical insurance. Fact of life.
Illegals do not pay their fair share of taxes. Much of their income is sent out of the U.S. to help relatives that they left behind. This "exported" money escapes taxation. Fact of life.
Legal Americans are obliged to assume all the responsibilities of citizenship by discharging all the duties of an American citizen. The primary duty, of which, is to obey all laws. Illegals don't. Fact of life.
do you believe the word "illegal" means they break the law?!
If you break into someone's house and refuse to leave, saying you are contributing by sweeping the floor and cleaning the dishes, does that justify it?
And no, ILLEGALS don't pay wage tax, because they don't have a valid social security number. THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO WORK AT THE FIRST PLACE.
Well there you go u said it yourself...their Social security number is fake! come on I went to government office the other day and had to give my social and the lady said she covers the numbers up cause so many HISPANICS Are trying to look at them and steal them ...PLEASE LADY GET REAL ..do you honestly believe they are so deprived??..they have a country they need to go back to it and you need to go with them if you want to help them so much...they are running illegal business's out of their home..sure let me have tons of kids stay at home get welfare and run illegal business's out of my home...NEWSFLASH...Government would look me up in a heartbeat!
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Another "fact of life". Just because the government and big business has been "looking the other way" or whatever the hel* has been going on, does NOT mean that American citizens and legal immigrants are going to welcome them into OUR country with "open arms" or accept them in any other fashion.
Immigrants are needed here. Illegal aliens ARE NOT!!! Period.
We accept a regulated # of immigrants into the country every year. What makes you think this country "needs" illegal criminals?
If we needed more people or workers, all the country would "need" to do is increase the immigration quota. Period.
There are hundreds of millions of people around the world (not just the countries south of the border) that would come to this country in a heartbeat.
How can illegals who get paid under the table and do not get a paycheck pay social security tax??
Few illegals pay income and Federal taxes, NOT ALL!!
Sales tax does not count.
Illegals do not pay their hospital bills. Why do you think that every American health care costs are going up?? TO PAY FOR THE ILLEGALS!
The illegals are not needed. How did those jobs get done before the US was invaded by illegals?? By hardworking American citizens!! Thanks. Please stop making it sound like illegals are the ONLY ONES who CAN do those jobs!!
Businesses are hiring illegals for less money so the businesses can make more money. What businesses are doing is wrong, but so is living ILLEGALLY in a country!!
It is easier said than done to "kick them out" as much as Americans want it to be done!! If we had the money would the US have a record trade deficit?? If we had the money would our economy be hurting so bad?? If we had the money would we have schools shutting down after school activities and not giving teachers raises?? If we had the money wouldn't our military be getting the best weapons and supplies??
most especially visa overstayers obtain social security card legally and use it to obtain legitimate employment..
they are taxed like everybody else..
you and mrs jeter have no clue as to what you think you know which obviously is very little.
Show me one, just one illegal alien 1040 tax return.. I want to see where they paid FICA, SS taxes, medicare, equity lines and out of state purchases, if applicable.. I guarantee that you can't.. but I further guarantee that you will have an excuse as to why you can't show me one.
I do NOT need the illegals here, I didn't invite them.. supply and demand have nothing to do with milking a country dry.. if i supply them a way out of this country then demand they never come back... i bet that works... ! (NOT)
The government has kicked them out, and like maggots to dead food they come back..
The only threat to this country is people like you that live in a dream world... it must be awfully lonely there
Yes!!I wish I knew the answer for this.many people even teachers in school have said that illegal immigratns don't pay taxes!!!When I know for a rfact that my uncles and aunts and all the rest of my family here in the U.S. that are illegal pay taxes!!
If you are illegal in this country, and paying taxes because you receive a REAL paycheck, something is fishy! You have to have a social security number to pay taxes! If you are not a citizen you do not have a social security number! DUH! And as far as your milk and bread...I would stop shopping at your grocery store. There is no tax on food items. What country are you living in?
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